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| View Poll Results: How far did your team advance at your first event in the 2015 season? | |||
| My team did not make it into elimination rounds |
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63 | 16.20% |
| My team was eliminated in the quarterfinals |
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89 | 22.88% |
| My team was eliminated in the semifinals |
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74 | 19.02% |
| My team was eliminated in the finals |
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76 | 19.54% |
| My team won the event |
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69 | 17.74% |
| My team is a rookie for the 2016 season, and did not compete in 2015 |
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8 | 2.06% |
| I am not affiliated with any FRC team |
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4 | 1.03% |
| Other |
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6 | 1.54% |
| Voters: 389. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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How biased are CD polls
Partially inspired by this post, I want to know how reflective CD polls are of the FRC community. I will use competitive advancement in the 2015 season as my metric because these results can easily compared against actual team advancement.
If you normally participate in polls, please participate in this one. If you do not normally participate in polls, please do not participate in this one. Last edited by Caleb Sykes : 11-02-2016 at 14:21. |
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Re: How biased are CD polls
Using the 2834 scouting database, here is what I found for teams' first event in 2015:
N teams = 2872 N not in eliminations = 1564 N quarterfinalists = 687 N semifinalists = 313 N finalists = 155 N winners = 153 P not in eliminations = 54.5% P quarterfinalists = 23.9% P semifinalists = 10.9% P finalists = 5.4% P winners = 5.3% Given, some of those teams do not exist from last year, and this doesn't account for rookie teams or non-FRC members of CD. Last edited by Caleb Sykes : 11-02-2016 at 23:14. |
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Re: How biased are CD polls
I can say that my team, which has been around since 2009, joined chief Delphi this year. There's just me and a general team account.
(We have used it as a resource but have never posted anything.) |
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Re: How biased are CD polls
I answered "other" as my team was part of the week 1 Phyxed-Red-Cards alliance. We were technically eliminated in the semifinals, but actually shouldn't have been due to an errant red card...
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Re: How biased are CD polls
We have a few students with CD accounts who check posts and "lurk". The only people to actually post are myself and our engineering mentor. Generally we see CD as a place where the hyper-involved share most of the material and the the soon-to-be-hyper-involved cut their teeth.
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Re: How biased are CD polls
This is an interesting poll, and will probably show that a disproportionate number of teams here play in elims. But it's also just a single data point, looking at a 1-year view. If you take my team, for example... We did horrible last year. But prior to that, we pretty much always made it into elims. You'll have outliers like that - teams that normally do well but had an off year last year, or teams that made it to elims for the first time in team history last year. Something to keep in mind when looking at the results.
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Re: How biased are CD polls
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4607 fits this description to a T. Recycle Rush wasn't kind to us. |
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Re: How biased are CD polls
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Re: How biased are CD polls
Thanks for creating this! The scouting data and combined with these poll results should be really interesting. So far the data here shows that I was wrong. It will be interesting to see how this poll develops as more people get home from school or work and contribute.
Assuming that the percentages stay the same, roughly 80% of Chief Delphi making eliminations (35% the finals?!) versus 50% of the population of FIRST in general making eliminations is pretty impressive. |
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Re: How biased are CD polls
If we assume that a fixed percentage of all FRC students and mentors are active on CD, having a larger team will disproportionately give them more votes.
On top of that, successful teams often have a greater percentage of CD members that are active then teams that are more the norm. |
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Re: How biased are CD polls
I think that's justified. This poll is measuring how well all of the "voices" on CD do. So if there is a thread about the low bar with 30 people participating, but they are only members of 18 different teams, each of the participants get representation in polls such as this one.
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Re: How biased are CD polls
A couple more things that this poll does not account for:
Because this is not a public poll, the honesty of the individual voters cannot be verified. The psychology of the Chief Delphi uses likely makes people who did poorly in their first event last year less likely to vote on this pole, and those who plan on doing a lot of things more likely to vote on the other polls about robot capabilities. |
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Re: How biased are CD polls
I've always taken it for granted that Chief Delphi posters are from above-average teams. That's a good thing when you need technical help, but it also means you have to be careful when you see people talking about strategy. Teams whose goal is to play on Einstein think about strategy differently from teams whose goal is to be selected for an alliance at a district event.
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Re: How biased are CD polls
Also, keep in mind that this is only recording a team's first event. We got knocked out in quarters at our first event because of some really bad luck, then made it to finals at our second event, won chairman's and went to Einstein. The first event alone is hardly a metric for a team's overall performance in a given season.
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Re: How biased are CD polls
Would you count a backup team going to a final (without being in any other match in that events playoffs) count as being eliminated in the final? If not then it would be just quarterfinals for us.
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