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Unread 15-02-2006, 11:12
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One of my predictions for this year's competition is that there may be a great deal of magic smoke as a result of high RPM motors stalling out, and mechanical parts exploding from strong centrifugal forces.

What do you think?

If you have some good pics of magic smoke in action, feel free to post them
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Unread 15-02-2006, 11:17
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Re: Magic Smoke and Shrapnel

When mechanical parts explode all the magic noise leaks out all at once, and it stops working.

You can sometimes get some of the magic noise back into the parts by yelling at them, hitting them, or bashing them with a hammer

but usually they have to go back to a machine shop, where they can be pumped full again by the noisey machines.

Mechanical parts are only suppose to give out their magical noise a little bit at a time!
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Unread 15-02-2006, 11:23
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Re: Magic Smoke and Shrapnel

I've noticed some chain moving at high velocity. I can't ever remember seeing a chain come apart. Maybe I'll get to see it happen.
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Re: Magic Smoke and Shrapnel

i can see smoke happening via motors get red hot. there may be shrapnel flying if a robot starts shredding balls. it is possible. this also brings up another good point, if motors stop working correctly, will there be balls flying into the stands?
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Re: Magic Smoke and Shrapnel

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i can see smoke happening via motors get red hot. there may be shrapnel flying if a robot starts shredding balls. it is possible. this also brings up another good point, if motors stop working correctly, will there be balls flying into the stands?
THAT WOULD BE REALLY COOL TO SEE!!!!!!!!!! LOL

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Re: Magic Smoke and Shrapnel

with all the spinning wheel shooters this year, some with variable angles, Im thinking about the steam generator station in Buffalo, along the Niagara River (near Strawberry Island).

Many years ago one of the 12 foot diameter generator armatures broke loose from its bearings. Since it was mounted vertically it bounced around the inside of the brick building for several seconds, like a giant top gone wild.

Finally it hit something solid and flew out through the brick wall, landing in the niagara river a few hundred yards away. You can still see the patch where the hole in the brick wall was repaired.

So what will happen if one of these spinning shooter wheels breaks loose inside a robot? It would be like a metal tornado inside the machine!
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Re: Magic Smoke and Shrapnel

I would hope teams to the time to properly balance their high speed wheels to minimize the vibrations that would tear apart machines. Also I woupld hope people properly use Loctite, lock nuts, lock washers, and jamb nuts to prevent things from coming apart. Hopefully we don't need to resort to safety wire.

I do believe though that I will detect the oh too familiar scent of FP magic smoke very quickly as someone will stall them or have improper air flow kill one at the regionals I attend.
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Re: Magic Smoke and Shrapnel

Yesturday we were testing the camera on the robot and we were running our shooting mechanism and the camera lens flew off the board and shot across the room ...It wasn't damaged but what a close call...
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Re: Magic Smoke and Shrapnel

I love the smell of magic smoke in the morning!

I figure balls will be flying in to the crowd all the time, just from driver error... or will the crowd be made to sit further away this year?
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Re: Magic Smoke and Shrapnel

Our chain came apart


We were running it at 4000 RMP, and the cnain hit a peice of lexan just right so it unclipped the masterlink...

That was scary
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Re: Magic Smoke and Shrapnel

I missed that, Cody, when did it happen?
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Re: Magic Smoke and Shrapnel

When you were at district jazz, I think.
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Re: Magic Smoke and Shrapnel

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I've noticed some chain moving at high velocity. I can't ever remember seeing a chain come apart. Maybe I'll get to see it happen.
Yep, as Cody said, it just unexpectedly unclipped. However a horrible noise it emitted, it just kinda slopped off and into something static; not too exciting unless you're right beside it. The area we have it in is rather enclosed though, so I'm not sure there won't be some exploding/flying chains on other robots... I'm more worried about plastic wheels shattering towards the end of a second regional.
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Re: Magic Smoke and Shrapnel

We never did find the side of that masterlink though... I'd imagine it would have done some damage to flesh if it'd hit someone
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Re: Magic Smoke and Shrapnel

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One of my predictions for this year's competition is that there may be a great deal of magic smoke as a result of high RPM motors stalling out, and mechanical parts exploding from strong centrifugal forces.

What do you think?

If you have some good pics of magic smoke in action, feel free to post them
We just had some magick smoke let out. We are trying to figure out why. I was the operator and aparently the hopper was smashing into some wires, and damaged the insulation enough so that... ooopps, black, red, power, ground, poof!

Thought I'd share the story since it happened 10 minutes ago as of now.

Two wires touched.

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