17-05-2010 09:22

johnr

Re: paper: MARC 2010 Rule Changes

Just to make it easier on refs, would it be possible to have the field clock count up to 10 after the match ends? Also, i take it the standings will be viewable just like the regular season?

17-05-2010 10:13

GaryVoshol

Re: paper: MARC 2010 Rule Changes

There is a clock on the field that counts to 10 after the final buzzer. Kind of a hidden feature - they didn't even tell the refs about it until Week 2 or 3. But that's how we knew when 469 was "done".

17-05-2010 15:05

pathew100

Re: paper: MARC 2010 Rule Changes

It's not a secret either. There is an amber light on the scoring control box above the middle driver's station. Normally the light is OFF.

The light turns ON for 10 seconds at the end of a match (when the buzzer sounds). When the light turns OFF then the scoring controller stops counting.

Also, the light will blink/flash during a match when DOGMA has assessed a penalty for that side (Red or Blue).

Some teams knew about it, some didn't, which is maybe an unfair advantage. If you can see that the other side got a DOGMA (which is not counted in "real time" total on the audience screen, btw) then it might make a difference in your strategy...

17-05-2010 18:09

Jack Jones

Re: paper: MARC 2010 Rule Changes

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So - you're saying there will be no extraordinary refeering at MARC?

17-05-2010 23:02

GaryVoshol

Re: paper: MARC 2010 Rule Changes

We will extraordinarily referee the other 46 penalties and cards.

And of course, give extra attention to the mentor matches. Can I nominate Jack to be working the trident on an alliance with 469? Dan K has to push the buttons working the flipper lever, and do any pushups for violating <G45>.

19-05-2010 18:41

kenavt

Re: paper: MARC 2010 Rule Changes

+1. Of course.

25-05-2010 15:08

GaryVoshol

Re: paper: MARC 2010 Rule Changes

A technical correction: In one of the revisions, I mixed up the terms NORMAL CONFIGURATION and FINALE CONFIGURATION. That is now fixed - thanks, ExTexan.

01-06-2010 10:50

IKE

Re: paper: MARC 2010 Rule Changes

Will there be a change to the tournament ranking system, or will it use the standard system after update 16?

01-06-2010 15:20

GaryVoshol

Re: paper: MARC 2010 Rule Changes

In the other MARC thread, Steve said the decision was made to stay with the standard seeding. W-T-L does not accurately rank teams any better than cooperition points. A 12-10 win should count more than a 2-0 win. The concern was whether to tweak the coopertition points or not, to avoid 6v0; make a 6-3 win better than a 0-22 loss. Other schemes could make 6v0 less beneficial, but not remove the advantage entirely; under certain situations it would always be better score for the opponents regardless of the seeding scheme. So it was decided to leave things as they were, after Team Update 16.

02-06-2010 20:42

fuzzy1718

Re: paper: MARC 2010 Rule Changes

Does this scenario fall under the last rule change?

A robot with a ball in a pincher roller traverses the bump and the ball looses contact with the ground.

My gut says penalty, but I'm not sure.

02-06-2010 22:52

GaryVoshol

Re: paper: MARC 2010 Rule Changes

That's still a penalty. It would only not be a penalty if the loss of contact with the ground/bump was so slight that it would be nearly impossible to see. No "gotcha's".