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CAN Jaguar Speed or Current Control with Current Limit or Thermal Cutoff

Ether

By: Ether
New: 17-08-2010 19:47
Updated: 21-08-2010 11:37
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CAN Jaguar Speed or Current Control with Current Limit or Thermal Cutoff

Three possible solutions are posted... the solution to use depends on the primary problem one is trying to solve:

a) Prevent the wheels from slipping by limiting torque? Try the Jaguar in speed control mode with cRIO limiting current.

b) Prevent the Jaguar's current shutoff from tripping or limit current for traction control? Try the Jaguar in current-control mode with cRIO controlling speed.

c) Protect the motor from overheating? Try the Jaguar in speed-control mode with cRIO limiting time-averaged square of the current.


Each solution has its potential benefits and flaws:

a) If the traction current limit is too high, this approach will not protect the motor from overheating. A current limit low enough to prevent motor overheating will not allow short-term higher motor currents which may be desired.

b) Speed control may be less effective. Provides no motor protection or traction control if current limit is set too high.

c) Requires a bit of testing to gather empirical data to properly tune the low-pass filter. There may be some scenarios where the filtered value does not track the motor temperature adequately. Does not provide traction control.

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  • pdf cRIO controlling speed and limiting current with Jag current control

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18-08-2010 01:07

RyanCahoon


Unread Re: paper: CAN Jaguar Speed Control with Current Limit

It seems to me that there wouldn't be enough bandwidth between the cRIO and the jaguars to implement this effectively, as I believe [kamocat]'s testing says roundtrip communication times are in the 10s or 100s of milliseconds, and current spikes will potentially be shorter than that.

While it may help against motors sitting in stall for long periods of time, I'm not certain if this will retain all the desired points of current control mode. Could definitely be worth testing, however.

--Ryan



21-08-2010 11:58

Ether


Unread Re: paper: CAN Jaguar Speed Control with Current Limit

Thanks for your comments Ryan.

If the concern is the circuit breaker in the Jag, take a look at the Jag in current-control mode with cRIO controlling speed.

If the concern is motor damage due to overheating, the thermal cutoff approach might provide some protection.

If the concern is traction control, using the Jag in speed-control mode and providing a current limit in the cRIO might be the best thing to try.

~



22-08-2010 00:59

RyanCahoon


Unread Re: paper: CAN Jaguar Speed Control with Current Limit

I guess my comments were mostly because I hadn't seen the usage cases.



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