05-04-2004 16:11

Greg Needel

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do you all get a new truck every year or was this a new 1 time thing.... i wished Bausch and Lomb made cars.......

05-04-2004 16:40

Ryan M.

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Lucky GM teams...

05-04-2004 16:46

sanddrag

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Call me jealous if you want but I think that is just plain absurd. Money can be spent for so many better things than that. Do you know how many teams you could start with that kind of money? Or how about some scholarships? I know HOT 67 may not have control over what their sponsor gives them but outlandish spending, to me, doesn't seem like one of the ideals of FIRST.

I don't disagree that a trailer for your stuff is a nice thing to have and of course you need a vehicle to pull it around but the same purpose could have been served with much fewer dollars spent.

05-04-2004 16:53

AmyPrib

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And does it have a navigation system in it?

05-04-2004 16:56

Ryan M.

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HOT was staying at the same hotel as us, so I got to take a peek in while waiting to leave Thursday. They could sell it and feed a third-world country.

(Maybe that's a little extreme...)

It's crazy nice though. Is anyone actually allowed to ride in it?

05-04-2004 16:57

Clark Gilbert

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I seriously doubt they actually paid for the H2 with team money. If it's anything like TechnoKats have been, they are on "permanent loan" to the team. Since its GM they probably have dozens of these things just sitting around. I noticed this year the TechnoKats have a new trailer and a new truck which I'm sure they didn't use team money to buy. Chances are the school took back the bigger trailer and traded, and the truck (since it's a Chevy) was once a test vehicle that's no longer in use....


This is all just a guess, but its' probably pretty close to being true.

05-04-2004 17:02

Guyute

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Its nice it definiately drew my attention at the Great Lakes Regional, but the old hummers are soo much nicer.

05-04-2004 17:05

Eric Bareiss

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Coming from a GM sponsored team (64) I kinda know what is going on:

GM has lots of cars sitting around that no one uses, for testing purposes. They are a car company. They don't go out and buy these cars for their teams. The teams don't get to keep the cars and certainly cannot sell them. It's just for fun.

If you were GM and you had a couple of teams wouldn't you want to make them look good. They do stuff like this so people will be impressed and jealous. I guess it worked huh?

05-04-2004 17:30

Beth Sweet

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He hit it right on the bar. That car was a pep car. It was used in a lot of tests. Our old truck was blessed and put to rest this year after traveling the equivilency of, I believe it was, 7 times around the equator. We use the truck/trailer to transport not only all of our parts, but things for other teams too, especially to nationals. And as for the Hummer, yes, it is partially for GM bragging purposes, but it also carries quite a large number of students, and we do use it for that purpose. I'm not sure whether the new Hummer and trailer were paid for by HOT or GM money. I apologize if posting this picture offended anyone, it is just a new thing this year that we're all really proud of.

05-04-2004 17:36

Will Hanashiro

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now that is nice... i know that team 66 also had a hummer... but the original (not the h2). i dont know the real name for it, maybe H1 or humvee but yall know what i'm talking about. it was awesome pulling into west michigan and seeing two hummers parked right next to eachother

05-04-2004 17:55

Collin Fultz

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i went to GLR
i saw the H2
i drolled

*maybe Rolls can hook us up with a helicopter or something*

05-04-2004 18:05

Mike Soukup

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You should not have to apologize for posting the picture. Those who are condemning you & your team for having such a beautiful vehicle & trailer should do the apologizing.

Shame on everyone for picking on HOT. I thought we already went through this when T3 unveiled their driver controls & when we posted a picture of Wildstang's field. A team can spend its time, money, and resources on whatever it feels will best benefit its students and the FIRST community. A team should not be forced to defend itself for such things.

Instead of whining & complaining put some of that time and energy towards finding sponsors who will donate you cool stuff, or find some parents / community members who will help you build cool stuff. Don't just be jealous (believe me, I'm jealous of the cool cars & trucks the GM teams get) be inspired and try to find a way to get the same goodies.

05-04-2004 18:20

Jay H 237

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I'll start off by saying I'm not offended at all (maybe just a tad jealous, okay a little more than a tad ) and that you should be proud of the H2 and the fact that you're backed by a huge corporation as GM.
Car companies donate vehicles all the time. They essentially claim these vehicles as tax write-offs so it becomes a win-win situation. When some of these test vehicles aren't needed anymore the lucky vehicles are donated to organizations like your team or automotive tech schools (so students can learn on the most modern, state-of-art vehicles). The unlucky ones are outright destroyed or destroyed a little more gently by being dismantled and the parts inspected to see how they held up.
So in conclusion CutieBethy, I hope you and your team are proud of General Motors and what they do for you. Being a car company vehicles are the other thing they could donate besides funding.

05-04-2004 18:32

abeD

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So are students allowed to drive? (of course these students must have liscenses) I'm asking becuase it would be so cool to just drive around in that for a day.



edit: now that i look closely it does look like its 2 pictures cut and put together

05-04-2004 18:35

Beth Sweet

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Naw, they don't let us drive it, as much as we do try to grab the keys while they're not looking...

05-04-2004 18:41

Tytus Gerrish

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wow!

i wish Pratt&Whitney would give us a jet.

That would TOTaly Own

05-04-2004 19:03

Billfred

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Very nice car.

My only gripe with hummers is the fuel economy thing, but if you're gonna actually need the power anyway, you might as well get it with style, eh?

Now for some spinners!

05-04-2004 20:09

Allison K

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I think it's awesome that they have that much team spirit. Of course, this is comming from another GM team member (226), so maybe its just that I've been GM brainwashed (All in light fun and completely not seriously, of course).

Allison

05-04-2004 22:06

aaronbr28040

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I just have one thing to say "that is frickin awesome". I dont know if i'm the only one but for some reason when i saw HOT and wheels in the same thread I definately expected to see a hot wheels car lol. All my team has is a short bus that we get from the school..........maybe I'll post pics sometime later, I'm sure everybody would get a good laugh out of that (the first aid kit inside says FIRST (aid) Team 900 from when we forgot our kit for a competition one year). When I saw the picture my mouth definately dropped and I was drooling. Anyways, good luck to your team.
-Aaron

05-04-2004 23:12

sburro

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Just as a side note:
Gm I believe gave away a bunch of electric powered street legal golf carts to non-profit organizations. This was to meet the new federal law about having so many electric vehicles on the road. My college has two of these.

05-04-2004 23:44

MikeDubreuil

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Under the same mentality... I wish Textron Systems would give us a bomb

06-04-2004 00:50

Marygrace

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LOL, eeeeeeeeeewww a H2???? No no no, *shakes head* *sigh* classic all the way, it would be awesome if it was a H1 with a truck bed and red & black. LOL, im just kdding, kinda :-P

06-04-2004 03:00

sanddrag

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I was not in any way offended by the picture. All I'm saying is that there is no such thing as a free lunch so whoever is paying for it gets to decide how many people it serves.

I don't disagree one bit that it is great to have such a big sponsor who gives you such cool stuff, and I don't disagree that the team may have no control over the gifts of their sponsor, but as I said, the value in those vehicles could be put to better use.

06-04-2004 09:52

Mike Soukup

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You don't get it, do you? HOT needed a new truck to pull their trailer around the country. GM had a slightly used H2 that they can do nothing with except donate to a worthy cause. GM decides to donate it to HOT because GM knows HOT will get a lot of use out of it. GM also gets the added benefit of students and engineers drooling over the beautiful truck. HOT takes the gift and uses it to transport their robot & tools across the country, and because they're such nice people they also haul other teams' equipment across the country. So in reality GM's gift to HOT was also a gift to many other teams in Michigan. Isn't that good use of the truck?

06-04-2004 10:10

Rayvon121

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How about those amphibous cars. Get one of those things! Then you would be blinging!

06-04-2004 10:12

Greg Perkins

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Mike,

bravo for hitting the nail on the head.

*EDIT*


sorry for the earlier reply i stated, i have deleted what i said