19-04-2004 09:47

Jeremy Roberts

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To all on 1396:

You guys were great. I had the pleasure of being up on stage with you guys for a match. Despite the problems you had with your bot the drivers, coach and human player were high spirited and fun to work with. Congrats on your Championship Judges award and hope to see you guys again next year.

19-04-2004 10:05

Mark McLeod

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Here is the 10 hour robot Team 1396 built on Thursday.

The story is posted elsewhere, but I'll repeat it here.

Team 1396 arrived on Thursday to an empty pit.
No crate!
They frantically began tracking down where their crate was. It had arrived in Atlanta, but through a paperwork mixup the robot had been re-shipped. The Team finally received a phone call late Thursday night from home telling them their robot had re-appeared on the school loading dock.

In the meantime, without wasting time waiting for the crate to be found the students proceeded to build a second robot. 1396 had brought Bosch intended to be used to rebuilt their arm and parts to rebuild their drivetrain. FIRST Spare Parts dumped victors, spikes, joysticks, compressor, pneumatics, and other parts needed to put a robot together. Surrounding teams came over all day Thursday, Friday, and Saturday contributing parts like the Robot Controller along with their expertise and labor to help 1396 get that robot up and running in time to compete on Friday.

They finished Archimedes in 33 place with a 4-3-0 record and received a Judges Award! Discovery Channel followed them around and did a story on them.

I'm proud of the way FIRST teams got together and helped get this team back on their feet , and I feel very privileged to know the members of Team 1396 who didn't allow such a potential tragedy to conquer their spirit or defeat them. They simply rose to the challenge and did what had to be done, and in the process probably had the best time possible at Nationals!

19-04-2004 10:54

Arefin Bari

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awesome job 1396... and the bot looks cool too... wish if i could stop by and check that new bot out... good luck and hope to see ya next year...

19-04-2004 11:20

Xufer

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That really was a great job, you pulled it together and built robot after your's was shipped home. I was really amazed at all the hardwork everyone put in to it and i was glad to see you guys out on the field!!

19-04-2004 11:41

KenWittlief

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that is the coolest thing, A new first for FIRST

but im worried now

this is gonna be fuel for procrastinators

I can hear some teams now - "we dont need to start building the robot until the last week - didnt you hear about that team at the championship who built there bot in one day"

in fact, we could just ship the KOP and build it when we get there

but seriously - what you have done sets a new example for Can-Do spirit

19-04-2004 12:01

Stephen Kowski

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wow when it rained it poured for this team....we were right next to them in the pits. They were leaving for a match, took the robot off their table, took no more than two steps away when the entire table crashed to the floor....batteries, chargers, a SOLDERING IRON that was on still....it was pretty bad looking....gj guys you put in a lot of solid work.

19-04-2004 12:20

Rich Wong

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1396 (Tottenville HS, SI) is a ROOKIE NYC team.
If it wasn't for all the great FIRST teams helping at the Championship Pit,
it would have be a disaster and a horrific experience for these rookies.

From all the other NYC FIRST Teams, a big “THANK YOU” to all the teams who gave their time and parts to help 1396. All of you show exactly what FIRST is all about.

BTW- that's a cool looking robot, especially in 10 hours.

19-04-2004 15:51

JohnBoucher

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Congrats.. Thats what it's all about. Way to go

19-04-2004 17:02

Billfred

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I saw this robot on Archimedes a few times, and it got better every time I saw it.

Any team that can get something running that fast deserves respect. And I bet if they had another day or two, they coulda been hanging!

19-04-2004 17:11

Elgin Clock

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I just want to say congratulations to this team and all who helped them...

AND...

I want to publicly post an apology from my team 237 for "beating" on their robot during a practice match on Thursday. In the alliance stations that first practice day, our driver wanted to try and block a team. Unfortunately they did not hear about this team's plight and chose them to try and see if we could block them. This unfortunately led to a shoving match against the "one day" bot and had a few teams asking why we "beat" on them.

Again, we are sorry for this - my whole team in the stands were yelling at our drivers to stop, but they did not hear at first.

Sorry for any harm this may have caused the robot or the team who was so much down on their luck so to speak.

And thanks to this team, for it proves that scouting is never done.. If we had gone against this team for a bio of the robot from a previous competition, then we would have been shocked on Friday and Saturday when we went against them..

19-04-2004 17:58

computhief263

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I remember seeing this robot when i was on my way to the quaterfinals and thinking "that wasnt the same robot i saw them compete w/ at the NYC regional". It wasnt till they won the judges award that i found out the story.
Congrats to everyone on 1396 and who ever may have helped them acomplish building "the one day bot".

Also congrats on winning Rookie Allstar at NYC, and Judges award at Nats. Good luck in the future

19-04-2004 18:09

IMDWalrus

Mrs

Wow...now THAT'S impressive.

One of my fondest memories from this year was helping 507 go from a chassis that wasn't moving to a functioning robot. Still...that pales in comparison to this.

Congrats to 1396 - it sounds like you managed to pull off a great thing.

19-04-2004 18:19

danield710

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awesome job 1396, it is truly amazing that u guys built a robot in one day
congrats on winning the award
hopefully next year this wont happen again, but u did a great job this year

19-04-2004 19:37

Paradox1350

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When the finals were starting and it was said that Archemedies was the only division with a bot that was built in one day, my teammate turned to me and said "Jee, even WE don't procrastinate THAT bad."

When the told the story of what actaully happened when presenting hte judges award, the only thing in my head was "....wow. Holy crap. Wow."

Honestly, I'm impressed. It's the single most impressive thing I've encountered in FIRST.

Though, if anyone could do it, it'd be a FIRST team.

Congrats again. I'm most impressed at how you didn't get depressed and upset, you sprang to action and built a competitive bot on Thursday.

19-04-2004 22:15

Ryan Foley

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Thats absolutely amazing

so what does the 10hr bot do? I think I see mechanisms for ball collecting but I am not sure.

That's a story that we are going to keep hearing, great job.

19-04-2004 22:56

Rich Wong

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LOL. Déjà Vu!
You may not remember (or may not have being around) in 2002 at the NYC Regional at Columbia University venue on Thursday-
Team 713 (Rice HS) had no robot. The only thing in the crate was a naked robot frame. When I open it, I was in shock. The Regional director told me that it was hopeless and to go help someone else.
Team713 already gave up the day before, because on Wed. volunteer dinner, the whole team showed up to volunteer because they said they were not planning to compete since they didn’t have a working robot.

BUT....On Thursday, several volunteers, teams and I built a working robot in 6 hours with no end-affecter. It was a true FIRST experience.
I remember begging many teams for spare parts. We also found a construction garbage container just out the school (a gold mine to any FIRSTer!!!!!) and jumped right in looking for wood, electrical boxes and metal!

One of the team that help tremendously WAS 237 Watertown, 522 Mckee and 334 Bklyn Tech and seversal other team. (was that you lecturing the other team?!) I remember stopping at 5pm when the robot was finally moving but your team 237 just kept working on an end-affecter and just wouldn’t give up. They kept working on it the next day until team 713’s first game. 713 won the Best Play Award for 2002 NYC Regional.
You guys rock.

19-04-2004 23:17

mtaman02

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A big thank you is in order as well as a large amount of respect.

I have never seen a robot get built in 10hrs. but I am upset that I was unable to see it all happen.

This was a big comeback for that team.

Some Info about 1396 The PyRobots.

This Team is located in Staten Island NY at Tottenville HS. This HS is widely known for its Sports athletics and is constantly in SI local newspapers. This HS is also one of the better schools on SI. Having a new robotics team that has shown its colors the first year involved with FIRST will only make the HS reputation better and I would like to see this Team back for the 2005 season.

T. 1396 has definitely earned all of their awards this year and Good Luck in the 2005 Season.

A Big Thank you goes to all the teams and the Spare Parts people who have helped to get 1396 on its feet.

Just one question remains?

What happened to this 10hr robot. Does 1396 get to keep it or did they have to return all the parts *ponders*?

19-04-2004 23:28

Billfred

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I'd imagine that the electronics were returned, but I guess most of the stuff can't be returned in a good fashion...FIRST games tend to knock the stuffings out of parts, even with a good chassis.

Anyone got info on the robot 1396 was SUPPOSED to have in Atlanta? You know, the one with the six weeks and all that.

19-04-2004 23:35

Elgin Clock

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This just proves what Dean talks about every year. Deadlines, Not enough time and resources to do what you have to. And the Gracious Professionalism that makes things just happen. To steal a line from a shoe company, Just Do It!!!

Don't ask how, or why, Just Do It!!!

This is what FIRST represents. This definately needs to be treasured in some form.

I would like to start a new FIRST tradition and nominate Team 1396's Championship Event Robot into the FIRST hall of fame as an Honorary Mention.

19-04-2004 23:35

Rich Wong

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http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/pi...&quiet=Verbose

I think the 10-hour bot may rival their 6.5 week bot!

btw- anyone know how they got the new bot home without a crate!

19-04-2004 23:38

Rich Wong

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or Champsionship Against All Odd Award?

19-04-2004 23:44

Billfred

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Actually, if I ever hit the Powerball (and my first, last, and only ticket for now will be in a month when I turn 18--hey, you've gotta do something you couldn't do the day before, and cigarettes are disgusting), I'd probably create an award for teams that in spite of stuff screwing up left and right for them (see also 1396 in Archimedes--or even 1293 at Palmetto, if you consider the arm) kept on trucking. Dunno of an official name yet...and I guess I'd have to hit the jackpot first, right?

20-04-2004 08:47

Mark McLeod

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The crate makes a good story too!

For the crate they made a trip to Home Depot for the parts, but as the primary mentor was just starting to assemble it (alone in the pits during closing ceremonies) a mentor from another team happened by and offered up a spare crate they were just planning to tear apart (the other team had shipped the robot and the tools separately I assume). Team 1396 was packed within a few minutes.

On Saturday they received some of the electronic parts, like the robot controller, express mailed from their original robot and swapped them out, so they could return the borrowed parts, but still have a functioning robot. They got to keep some of the FIRST spare parts.
The robot went home in one piece. The photo at the start of this thread was of the robot as it was before it went into the crate.

The robot has two pneumatic wings that pop out to help herd the balls. During autonomous they would start shoving the mobil goal to block the opponents ball chute. In addition to herding they would also block robots from hanging. It worked better than their original robot simply because of the extra experience they got from building two robots, not that they didn't have other problems. A zip tie got caught in one transmission on Friday and broke part of the plastic housing. It got replaced, thanks again to at least three other teams who had spare parts and labor to contribute.

20-04-2004 11:40

Gabe Salas Jr.

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I remember talking to them after their practice match on Thursday. I was tugging our team's robot onto our playing field, when one of the drivers ecstatically ran up to me, and said, "Hey do you remember us from New York?" I was like, "Yes! I am surprised to see you guys here! How are you guys doing?" He was like, "You will not believe what happened. They shipped our robot back to New York." (My mouth dropped, I could not think of anything to say) He continued, "Yes we built that robot in eight hours, and we are able to push the movable goal, and even some robots around!" "WOW! You guys better get an award or something. I wish you guys the best of luck!"

They really deserved that award, and yes I agree with Rich Wong by saying that their 10 hour robot does rival their 6.5 week robot. Personally, I think it could beat their 6.5 week robot, but that is just me.

20-04-2004 11:51

Andy Grady

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That, my friends, is what it is all about. To quote the movie Hardball "I am inspired by your ability to show up." Showing up is half the battle...1396 took it above and beyond. Congrats guys, you are truely inspirational.

-Andy Grady

p.s. Somehow I am not suprised that the team that was able to accomplish this was one of the teams from the NYC Regional. Everyone at that regional was an amazing example of what FIRST is all about...and it carried over in Atlanta.

20-04-2004 11:59

Rich Wong

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Now you’ve done it……. just got me all emotional about NYC teams. (can I have a moment by myself please)
Thanks Andy.

20-04-2004 12:10

Greg Needel

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for anyone who wants to see i found a picture of their original robot

20-04-2004 12:54

Pin Man

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Honestly that really is unbelievable... I'm having a hard time swallowing the idea that, that is possible and not finishing dead last in your division... That must have been tough for you guys to do... It is amazing!!! I wish I got to see you guys in action... Looks a lot different than your original... GREAT JOB!!!

20-04-2004 13:54

Tazlikesrobots

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All I have to say is "WOW!" This proves that there is no other sport like FIRST robotic competitions!

A applaud everyone involved in insuring that this team was able to have a robot to compete with!

PS I think you guys should audition for Junkyard wars!

20-04-2004 19:37

xxmaddjxx

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As a captain and driver for team 1396 i would like to thank everyone at nats, and everone on CD for their support! We couldnt have done it without you guys. Especially i want to thank teams 1340, 358 (Robotic Eagles), 33 (Killer Bees) and 494 (Goodrich Martians) for their help throught our short but sucessful build season. During these three days i saw what our team and FIRST are really about. I saw what our team was capable of, and am convinced we can do anythign if we try hard enought. I wish that every other team out there, can experiance the spirit of FIRST and gracious professionalis as we did, for it is in times like these that both truly come out. I can withought a doubt say that i am proud of this robot and even in the matches we lost i felt that it performed to its full potential. There is a quote that i had on an english essay a while back (lol) that i think applies to us and our situation, more so the second part of it, but the whole thing holds true.

"Prosperity doth best discover vice, but adversity doth best discover virtue. "
- Sir Francis Bacon

20-04-2004 20:09

RoboticsFiend

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I just wanted to add my amazement to the long list of impressed people already here... I met team 1396 at the competition, I went to see their robot after I heard what happened to them and my first thought was "Am I at the right pit?" I could not believe that the robot sitting there was build in just a few hours! After that I started talking to the team members and i must say they are amazing people, who didn't just quit when things went bad. All and all I am just happy to have met such people, and i was on my feet and cheering as loud as i could when they won that Judge's Award because i have never before met a team that deserved it so much... Good work Guys!

~Liz
team 358

21-04-2004 00:36

mtaman02

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Hey I took that picture hehe. I must agree with Crazybear I'm sure there 10hr bot can win against their 6.5 week bot. Nevertheless they are definitely experience now in building a simple yet effective robot!

21-04-2004 22:45

av11d

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I wasn't at nats, but when I was watching the webcast and I heard them talk about what happened I was amazed. The sheer determination of this team really sets an example for other teams! Congrats to 1396 for perhaps setting the record for quickest FIRST robot built

21-04-2004 22:53

Pin Man

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Not to mention that they placed pretty good...

20-10-2005 08:49

Al Skierkiewicz

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I do not normally revive old threads but since John Boucher pointed to this I had to put in my two cents. Without a doubt this is a defining moment for FIRST. For those of you who were not in the division or Atlanta that year, it is hard to explain. A team came to play but had no robot. Gracious professionalism dictates that if you come to play, I must help you. And they got lot's of help and I am proud to know many of those people personally. For a team to be able to participate is the greatest honor, to deny them that ability was unthinkable. When explaining GP to non Firsters or to newbies, I always use this example. I used this story the other night and the reaction as always is the same...a blank, disbelieving stare. This is proof we can change the world.

09-10-2007 21:28

Tds123

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Thanks guys for all the support and enthusiasm we all tried our hardest and best and we were really shocked but it we pulled through with team work and other teams work =p lol Even thought i wasnt there lol

15-10-2007 11:02

sporno

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thats crazy guys ,I heard about it , but never actually seen it. At some competitions Ive spent the entire time re-building a teams drive train and helping with their lifter , but thats nuts.

Well done , and that is the true spirit of gracious professionalism.

15-10-2007 11:33

JaneYoung

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I have been very fortunate to have been told this story but this is the first time I've seen or read this thread. I'm not sure when the tears started clouding my vision while reading..probably one of Mark McLeod's posts but Rich Wong and Andy Grady didn't help.

This thread should surface like this before every new season. It is motivating and inspiring. And jawdropping.

16-10-2007 10:57

Chief Pride

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doesnt that make you wonder... if at a basketball game the best player on the team broke his leg, and the opposing team had magic powers and were able to heal him...

would they?

16-10-2007 11:52

synth3tk

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Naw, basketball isn't nearly as great a sport as FRC. They play for the money. We play for honor, dignity, and respect.

16-10-2007 12:01

Sean Schuff

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I heard this story when it happened. I have used it repeatedly as an example of what FIRST is really all about.

Truly inspiring!

23-10-2007 14:50

T3_1565

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no kidding wow.... this is such an awesome feat.... way to good!