08-03-2004 04:36 PM

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

Does this mean that iPod is going to be given to John?

08-03-2004 04:36 PM

Amanda Morrison

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

You have GOT to be kidding me.

I MUST GET ONE.

08-03-2004 04:41 PM

Brandon Martus

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

Is this the result of Steve Wozniak attending FIRST competitions?

08-03-2004 04:43 PM

KyleGilbert45

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

Welcome to the club.....




EDIT: looks a little too scratched up to be brand new....but hey mine looked like that a week after I had it so oh well...

08-03-2004 04:45 PM

Franchesca

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Wow!! That is definitely awesome.

Just think about it ... with that form of identification if its gets lost or gets stolen ... its a sure bet to retrieve it!

I like the idea of putting my name or some kind of phrase on my properties in order to identify them! I'll keep that in mind for when I get MY ipod!

08-03-2004 04:52 PM

Joshua May

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This is going too far... That's just hillarious.

08-03-2004 05:03 PM

Ryan F.

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

Sad......very sad.

08-03-2004 05:06 PM

Melissa Nute

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I so hope this picture is fake.

08-03-2004 05:19 PM

Dorienne

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

That...is...classic! Purely fun entertainment. Made my day..
--Dori

08-03-2004 05:47 PM

Heretic121

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

the engraving from the pic DOES look real, as it looks the same depth, and color of the apple etchings, (with new ipods you can get free etchings so... hmm..) teh fake? or teh real!?! =D

btw... welcome to the club indeed... cept i still win because mine is metalic blue =P

08-03-2004 05:49 PM

Clark Gilbert

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

Hmm, I'm wondering if this is Brandon's new iPod. I know he recently (past few months) purchased a 40gb, and for some reason I have a hard time believing Andy would own a 40gb iPod Oh well, still funny.

08-03-2004 05:59 PM

David Kelly

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PHOTOSHOPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!

08-03-2004 06:09 PM

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Yeah, the "engraving" looks a little bit crooked

Nice try, Andy & Brandon

08-03-2004 06:30 PM

Amanda Morrison

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

Can anyone prove it's photoshopped? I thought it was too until I found out that you can get them engraved now... now I'm starting to wonder...

08-03-2004 06:45 PM

Brandon Martus

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

I can safely say it is not mine.
I had nothing to do with this.

I will provide proof if necessary.

08-03-2004 06:53 PM

Melissa Nute

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

I think Andy Baker is trying to bring back "I am JVN"...since it will never die.

08-03-2004 07:07 PM

Jay H 237

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To answer Amanda's question........YES! I don't know about "I am John V'Neun" being added in but that photo WAS modified (Photoshopped) before being submitted to CD-47 Bot. Look at the bottom of the ipod. All the writing is legible except for the serial number so someone definitely blurred it out. So it could very well be possible that "I am JVN" was added in.

Sometimes you just have to study the photo carefully.

08-03-2004 07:11 PM

Astronouth7303

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

Anyone live near Andy Baker?

08-03-2004 07:13 PM

Heretic121

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i concur with your good eyes, but as you said possible =D... i see no reason why or how it could be photoshopped, where you can see that there is depth to the engraving of it... and you can still send in ANY ipod for 25-50 bucks and get it engraved... so i feel 95% sure its the real deal...

08-03-2004 07:42 PM

Brandon Martus

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

Proof: http://www.pubarso.com/misc/notmyipod.wmv

Windows Media Video showing my iPod, reflecting in the light. No engraving.

08-03-2004 07:53 PM

Max Lobovsky

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

Maybe its just my eyes, but I think I can see significantly worse compression artifacts around the "I am JVN" suggesting that it was added to an existing jpeg and recompressed. The text also looks different in general on close inspection. If it was a fake, it was simply white text overlayed the picture. It was a good choice of picture though...

08-03-2004 08:00 PM

jgannon

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

I call BS. The engraving on my iPod is not nearly that thick.

That doesn't mean it's not funny.

08-03-2004 08:04 PM

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

I live 5 minutes from him, but I dont see this as a reason to go bother him....


You went to way too much effort to prove that...lol

08-03-2004 08:21 PM

DCA Fan

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

I dunno what's worse, the fact that you made that video or the fact that I actually downloaded it to see what was on there......

08-03-2004 08:52 PM

Jay H 237

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

Hmmmm, maybe the ipod belongs to CD47-Bot. He has remained awfully quiet on this. Instead of changing the custom user title to "I am JVN" like scores of us did he decided to out do us all and get an ipod engraved! Or atleast make us think it with Photoshop.

The only bad thing about getting something like that permanently done is you have to ask yourself "What will you do if JVN winds up not being cool anymore?!" Although we all know there's no chance in that happening!



P.S. I am well aware that the 'Bot ain't human.

08-03-2004 09:02 PM

Ben Lauer

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THE CD47-BOT isn't human?!?!?!? Oh man...I have been the one giving reps for all those cool pics it posts!!

J/K By the way...who ever is don't that...it cracked me up when it's rep was higher than mine!

And sorry for posting off topic.

08-03-2004 09:07 PM

Andy Baker

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LOL... I do!

As for the ipod...

You guys are on the case, I see. I'll admit, there is a twist. One person has nailed it already.

Andy B.

08-03-2004 09:13 PM

Ryan F.

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

Anyone noticed that the ipod is all scratched up on the back, when they claim it's "new". Heck, my new one has absolutely no scratches after 2 days.

08-03-2004 09:46 PM

Amanda Morrison

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

Hey now... in my defense, I'm not completely old and blind... I can tell with the blurred serial number that it was photoshopped, but I'm having trouble seeing the engraving photoshopped. Can anyone blow it up or anything?

p.s. - How the heck could the Pig Farmer learn to use photoshop?! I think he was crazy enough to actually order one.

p.p.s. - who said it was new?

08-03-2004 10:12 PM

Rich Kressly

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Hey Baker, what exactly does the Delphi Corporation pay you to do out there this time of year? After a long FIRST season which includes time away from those beautiful daughters and lost time at work, I'd figure a guy like you is waaaaaaaaay too busy to spend time on something that is usually reserved for a ninth grader with no summer job and no girlfriend/boyfriend.

Oh, and the ninth grader can probably do a better job with the Photoshop work.

Can't you just feel the love.

08-03-2004 10:22 PM

David Kelly

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

we have a winnner! DING DING DING!! It's totally a recompressed image with text layed over it.


I've got a $10 bet with somebody on this that it is fake, so I want proof.

08-03-2004 10:27 PM

Amanda Morrison

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I bet DK $10 that it's real. I hope him (and whomever else wants to take a bet) are prepared to buy my meals at Kickoff.

I have thoroughly examined this and have determined that it must be real because:

-I think the camera's quality explains the text.
-I think that Andy couldn't possibly photoshop something that well (no offense)
-I think that since I found out about them etching the iPods for free, he would do something this crazy
-I think someone could talk Andy into doing something this crazy. I NEVER doubt the insanity of pig farmers.

Bets are open.

08-03-2004 10:37 PM

Rich Kressly

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Sigh

So not only is the most esteemed WFA winner ever goofing off with Photoshop, but two of the most esteemed college members of FIRST are making side bets (cough - illegal gambling - cough) about said work. I believe the off season can officially be over now

08-03-2004 10:39 PM

Amanda Morrison

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

It's just a small, friendly wager on the wrongness of the CD Community.

I tried really, really hard and couldn't find photoshop lines... I dare anyone else.

p.s.- I just looked at Kyle Fenton's iPod, and I think it's funny that the font is the exact same... although Kyle's is blurry, I still maintain that it's not photoshopped.

08-03-2004 10:43 PM

Billfred

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

...so if the off-season is over, and the pre-season can't start until school starts (a smidge over a week for 1293, not to mention the info meetings), where are we?

WE'RE LOST IN AN ABYSS OF THE FIRST CALENDAR! HELP!

08-03-2004 10:46 PM

Andy Baker

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

I had a tough conversation with my 5 year old today. She said "why are you at work so much?" That kinda tore me up. I said "You are right. I have been working too much lately." So, we out for ice cream tonight. Tomorrow night, we will have some other fun.

I have been putting in 12 hour days for the past month, which stinks because it is nice outside. We (me, 2 other engineers, and 4 stilled tradesmen in my department) just got done shipping a fully-automated robot to our Milwaukee plant, for the calibration and test of our latest Engine Control Modules. The robotic cell incorporated an EPSON Scara 65S robot. On the head of this robot, it had 3 festo cylinders, 1 keyence bar code scanner, 1 Schunk gripper, and 1 ATI tool changer, weighing 6.5 lbs. It was neat to watch, once we got it working. At full speed, it sounded like a Pachinco game. We went from design to shipping in 5 weeks. And it has to run 2 shifts a day when installed. Now, I gotta make sure all of my prints are right, because production wants 4 more.

And... I am trying to start this side business thing, which takes up my evenings, after the kids get to bed.

It's August already? Wasn't it May last week... yikes!

So... with all of that said, a guy has got to have fun. "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy." OK... back to work.

Andy B.

08-03-2004 10:47 PM

Kyle Fenton

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

This is my 4g iPod with a real engraving.


The iPod looks real, but the text looks fake. The text is too clear and to big. But good job though.

08-03-2004 10:51 PM

Arefin Bari

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

Andy Listen's to metal?

08-03-2004 10:59 PM

Kyle Fenton

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

I have had mine for a week and it is scratched up and has a bunch of notable fingerprints. It must be the kind of metal they use. But I can clean it off pretty easy.

Yeah my digital camera doesn't have a macro option, so it needs a minimum distance to be clear.

08-03-2004 11:19 PM

Ben Lauer

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I am going to have to back up Amanda here, even though this may prove to be wrong.

I am a photoshop ignorant, but if you look at the over all image you can see things in the reflection that kinda look like ceiling panels. These lines go directly through the text, which makes me think that it is real. As for it being crooked, if you align the text with the bottom it looks strait, but if you align it with the top it looks crooked, I think this is because of the glare of the flash.

08-03-2004 11:20 PM

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

I can prove the photo is fake. I took a look at the advanced properties of the picture file



Baker's camera is a Cannon A-60...

According to the properties, the picture was uploaded from a Nikon E5000....

Edit

Case is still open...

I think its pretty safe to say the iPod does not belong to Baker.....

So its time to prove the engraving is fake

08-03-2004 11:21 PM

KyleGilbert45

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

Just to back DJ up, I also took a screen shot of the advanced properties.



Look they used Adobe Photoshopped 7.0

08-03-2004 11:25 PM

Andy Baker

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

OK, Perry Mason, here are a couple of rebuttals to that stroke of genius:

Maybe I got a new camera too.
Maybe it's my ipod, but not my camera.


Andy B.

08-03-2004 11:26 PM

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

That camera was discontinued a long time ago

08-03-2004 11:27 PM

Ben Lauer

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

nice try andy...i think you lost. unless.....

you drove up and met brandon half way so he could take a picture in a Wendy's somewhere on the 31 bypass around South Bend. That way when DJ and Kyle looked it up they would be fooled.


DJ...hello?!?1 EBAY!!!

08-03-2004 11:30 PM

Andy Baker

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

You don't realize the prowess my wife has on ebay.

touche'

AB

08-03-2004 11:30 PM

Kyle Fenton

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

That doesn't mean anyting. I use Adobe Photoshop Elements 2 to import the pictures from my camera. As for the camera he could of changed the EXIF data to fool you.

08-03-2004 11:47 PM

Amanda Morrison

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

ebay?

also... I have a question for you guys. Wouldn't it also show photoshop as the program used, since the serial number is blurred out?

Doesn't that mean that it could still be a real picture?

08-03-2004 11:51 PM

Max Lobovsky

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And EXIF data can be easily edited, they might just be screwing with you. 'Course I believe it was edited, just playing devil's advocate

08-04-2004 12:17 AM

Mike Schroeder

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I think its real.... and i want 10 bucks too DK

The Big Mike has spoken so it must be real


if people start saying they are big mike i'll run away

08-04-2004 12:18 AM

Jeff Rodriguez

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

Since it was made at 1am, I'm inclined to believe it's fake. Someone was staying up late having some fun.

However, when I opened the picture in notepad and sorted though the rubbish, the photoshop:History' tag was empty. Meaning it wasn't tampered with. Anyone else got anything?

08-04-2004 12:20 AM

Heretic121

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

didnt andy upload the photo??? but i guess that doesnt mean anything =P
but Amanda probably made the best point for the real side, and im definatley going to stick with my original desicion, and say that its real...

Maybe it is JVN's!?! i mean... he hasnt posted in this thread yet =X

08-04-2004 12:30 AM

Ryan F.

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

Why would someone have an ipod with a blurred out serial number....if it's the real picture? .... Anything you want to be telling us andy??

08-04-2004 01:20 AM

Joshua May

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

Allright, you guys have to look at this logically. In Post #28, Andy said that there is a twist, and that someone had previously posted the correct answer. Reading through the posts, I've found the following that seem relevent:

Brandon said in Post #4 said that it could be the work of Steve W
Clark Gilbert said it could be Brandon's iPod
David Kelly said it was Photoshoped
DJ said that Andy and Brandon conpsired and that the engraving seems crooked
Max Loblovsky said there could be strange compressions in the file.

Now, to rule out some of these. DJ looked back at the image, and it seems that the crookedness could be the result of the glare.

Max's eyes were tired, and I don't see any weird compressions.

Brandon has shown off his iPod, so we know that it isn't his iPod if the image is real.

We have proved that the image went through Photoshop, at least for the blurring of the serial number.

So it's either photoshopped, or Steve W had something to do with this, I'm thinking it was Steve, Canadians are tricky like that.

08-04-2004 01:59 AM

CrazyCarl461

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In that case, DJ also suggested that the iPod might be given to John. Maybe it's one heck of a gift from one nice guy to another. I've met Andy before, and I believe he would do that for a cool guy like JVN. Or at least John can hope that is the scenario.

08-04-2004 07:52 AM

Rich Kressly

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As always I am humbled. Side business? Need a PR guy? By the way, I love the Perry Mason references - anyone here under the age of 25 know who Andy is talking about? *Checks birth certificate - sigh*

08-04-2004 10:16 AM

JVN

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

Whoa! Andy I didn't think you'd actually go through with it!!!

I've been swamped at work for the past few days, and didn't see this thread until now.

Okay... seriously now, here is the back story from my point of view:
Andy and I were talking one night, and we were joking around about iPods. He told me he was thinking of getting one for long car rides, and long days at work designing. (Brief aside: who here has ever spent 12 hours at a CAD terminal? *raises hand* who thinks it's better with music? *raises hand*)

We were browsing, and then joking about the free engraving. (I think the original joke was "Put Andy on Survivor") I told him if he had any balls, he'd put "I am JVN" on there... he laughed. That was the last I heard of it...


Then.... I see THIS thread.

Seriously... someone suggested it is a gift for me.
I like that idea. Andy, any chance you'd be willing to donate your iPod to a poor college FIRST dork?

Cool Stuff man,
Technology comes to Indiana.

JV


PS - as far as having my name on Andy's iPod goes, I think it's pretty funny, and pretty darn cool.

08-04-2004 10:23 AM

Jessica Boucher

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

I think...







...that this is a pretty darn good replacement for "Type your username with your...". Quite amusing, if you ask me.

Baker, just like I told Rich Wong last nite, you need to learn a new word: Starts with a "V", ends in a "n", has "acatio" in the middle. Both of your families will love you for it. I think you're on the right track with your evening-vacations.

08-04-2004 10:32 AM

Brandon Martus

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Ok, Andy PM'd me last night about how the image gallery resized the picture he uploaded. We do that to save space and whatever, but in this case high-resolution would be better. So since there is so much debate about if this ipod is real or not, I'll upload the picture so everyone can see the high-res version that Andy e-mailed me:

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/misc/ipodhires.jpg

08-04-2004 11:21 AM

David Kelly

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

After seeing that, I think I might owe somebody $10

08-04-2004 11:30 AM

Stephen Kowski

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

you people are starting to scare me....this is like a cabin fever, but for chief delphi....

08-04-2004 11:46 AM

Jeff Rodriguez

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

Now the question has become, Why was andy up so late?

08-04-2004 11:51 AM

phrontist

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

If you really want to prove it, shoot a short video clip in which you rotate the iPod side to side, turn it over in your hand, pass your hand over it, etc.

08-04-2004 12:32 PM

Arefin Bari

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

Andy was Up till 2 o'clock in the morning helping me with something... and i am very sure that he wouldnt be able to work on photoshop when he was helping me out...

08-04-2004 01:36 PM

Mike Schroeder

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

*checks birth certificate* oh whoa im under 25... in that case yea i know who your talkin about

08-04-2004 04:20 PM

Karthik

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

Okay, just to clear things up a bit.

Steve Wozniak = Co-Founder of Apple Computers
Steve W = Steve Warren, FIRST Announcer, Team 188 Mentor, Karthik's Arch Nemesis

Despite the fact that our Steve W has plenty of delusions of grandeur, even he has yet to claim the founding of Apple.

08-04-2004 04:54 PM

Joshua May

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

Oh yeah, that's what happens when I think too late.

08-04-2004 08:22 PM

MattK

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

Wow the smaller one looks PSed but this high-res one looks pretty darn real. Why dont you post a new picture of the ipod from a different angle and better lighting.

08-04-2004 10:44 PM

Brandon Martus

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

I too was confused, and had to go back and see what I said about Steve W (from Canada)

08-05-2004 01:00 AM

Jon K.

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

Someone would have to be very good at PS to get the lettering to look like that. Altho depending on how it was engraved(laser etched or really engraved) it would leave different markings and that looks like something a cnc machine or something of the like would probably etch because of the way the letters start and end.

08-05-2004 01:03 AM

Mike Schroeder

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

so then there is your answer, Hedi Did it, her and her crazy PS pictures of me as an Oompa Loompa


-Big Mike
Im not afraid of Hedi

08-05-2004 01:14 PM

Greg Ross

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

Obviously, because it would be much harder to get the "engraving" to match the new angle.

08-05-2004 10:57 PM

Mike AA

Re: pic: Woohoo! I've got an ipod!

I know who Perry Mason is, its been a while. I'm 21

08-06-2004 01:49 PM

JVN

"It is definitely fake!"

Okay... so now that the "fun" has ended, and this thread has died down a little, I guess I can reveal the truth...
(You have no idea how funny this was for me).

It's MY iPod.
I decided to order one of the new G4 iPods.
When I saw the free engraving offer, I was just going to put my name, but someone suggested putting my new "catchphrase" , and I couldn't resist.

• Yes, it's real.
• The engraving, is real.
• The iPod, is real.
• Yes, that picture was photoshopped. -- I didn't want my serial number posted.
• I also used Photoshop (yes, at 1AM) to crop the picture, shrink it and send it to Andy.

Andy graciously jumped right into this little prank. As some of you know, I do things like this from time to time. I hope you all had as much fun as I did.
At least, I only do this stuff in the summer, right?

Ohh, one more thing. Those of you who "knew" it was fake, and cited all these various reasons (I'm looking at you DJ, silly-silly DJ.) are just too clever for your own good (ha).

Sometimes, the most obvious solution is the right one.


Go back to your regularly scheduled viewing.

Your Friend,
Johnny V

PS - Andy Baker is the man. But you already knew that.

08-06-2004 02:07 PM

David Kelly

Re: "It is definitely fake!"

08-06-2004 02:16 PM

Jeff Waegelin

Re: "It is definitely fake!"

Owe someone some money, DK?

08-06-2004 02:27 PM

David Kelly

Re: "It is definitely fake!"

Once again, little miss morrison plots against me, makes a bet, and i believe it. Somebody's gonna get it.... GRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!

08-06-2004 03:17 PM

Amanda Morrison

Re: "It is definitely fake!"

I never agree to a bet I can't win... see here.