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By: phrozen solyd
New: 02-26-2005 06:37 PM
Updated: 02-26-2005 06:37 PM
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2005 Model
6-wheel base
Shift-on-the-fly
14 fps or 7 fps
3 jointed arm
Passive gripper
For more pictures and a detailed description, visit our website at
team254.bcp.org
We'd be happy to answer any questions.
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02-26-2005 06:59 PM
Tom Bottiglieri
Re: pic: West Coast Collaborationz and Team 254 Present
You are using the same robot at last year?
Could you please tell/show the differences?
..It looks amazing.
02-26-2005 07:07 PM
Arefin Bari
Re: pic: West Coast Collaborationz and Team 254 Present
hmm... it looks ALMOST the same... here is a picture of team 60's robot last year which was a clone of 254. looks like everything is same but the claw.
... What I like about it is, they know they have something that works, they just perfected it more.
02-26-2005 07:08 PM
BoyWithCape195
Re: pic: West Coast Collaborationz and Team 254 Present
They now have a hard pole to knock down the tetras instead of the flexible rod they had to knock off the 10 point balls 
02-26-2005 07:33 PM
Heretic121
Re: pic: West Coast Collaborationz and Team 254 Present
from what i see... there is one more joint to the arm... same DT from show... and the gripper is diffrent... other than that it looks the same...
great job in the improvements...
02-26-2005 08:29 PM
phrozen solyd
Re: pic: West Coast Collaborationz and Team 254 Present
It's almost the same 'bot as last year's, with some changes:
-Totally redesigned drivetrain - we're using 2 fisher price's (with the andymark transmissions) and 2 atwoods to run it, and we can shift on the fly. Also, the gearboxes are almost 50% lighter than last year's.
-Yes, the arm has 3 joints, but the top joint is chained to the lower part of the arm, so that it always moves parallel to it.
-We machined gearboxes to run the arm as well, because we were having problems with the plastic gearboxes on the fisher price motors from last year.
-The arm is run by 2 atwoods, not 2 FP's and and a van door.
There are a few minor tweaks here and there, but those are the main differences.
02-27-2005 01:38 AM
Karthik
Re: pic: West Coast Collaborationz and Team 254 Present
"if it ain't broke, don't fix it..."
After a typically successful 2004 season, it looks Team 254 made the decision to stick with what works. At this year's kickoff I predicted that many of the top 2004 teams would only make slight changes to their robots and modify their end effectors to pick up tetras. Team 254 is a perfect example of this phenomena.
Considering the similarities to their 2004 robot, I'm sure this version was completed pretty early in the build, allowing for more practice and tweaking. A good robot, heavily tweaked with practiced drivers usually goes very far.
Great work. Can't wait to see it in Atlanta.
02-27-2005 03:17 PM
phrozen solyd
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Originally Posted by Karthik
Considering the similarities to their 2004 robot, I'm sure this version was completed pretty early in the build, allowing for more practice and tweaking. A good robot, heavily tweaked with practiced drivers usually goes very far. Great work. Can't wait to see it in Atlanta. |
At least we've got the practice robot to play with until Sacramento.
02-27-2005 04:15 PM
Yan Wang
Re: pic: West Coast Collaborationz and Team 254 Present
Awesome looking robot. Last year, your robot was my favorite - it did everything and it did it so well.
I went to your website (as the caption suggested) and I found that the robot's weight is 129lbs. Is that with or without the battery? When we weighed our robot with the battery, it was somewhere between 132 and 133lbs.
02-27-2005 05:10 PM
pakrat
Re: pic: West Coast Collaborationz and Team 254 Present
how many teams are meber of the West Coast Collaborationz?? Just you and 60, or are there more this year?
02-27-2005 05:24 PM
Katy
Re: pic: West Coast Collaborationz and Team 254 Present
Very nice!
Though I am a bit scared at the idea that a game suppose to be "rookie friendly" and a game that can be played with an almost-last-year's robot are suppose to be the same thing.
02-27-2005 05:55 PM
activemx
Re: pic: West Coast Collaborationz and Team 254 Present
I dont think 60 is collaborating with 254 this year. But i might be wrong.
02-27-2005 06:11 PM
Yan Wang
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Originally Posted by activemx
I dont think 60 is collaborating with 254 this year. But i might be wrong.
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02-27-2005 07:21 PM
Cory
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Originally Posted by Yan Wang
I think you're right. Early in the season, 60 released a concept animation of their robot, the Revolver, which could store 4 tetras on itself. 254's robot doesnt look anything like it except for the base.
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I've heard they aren't working together as well.
02-27-2005 07:23 PM
Kyle
Re: pic: West Coast Collaborationz and Team 254 Present
It looks great, cant wait to see it at Nats again, kinda
02-27-2005 07:31 PM
J Flex 188
Re: pic: West Coast Collaborationz and Team 254 Present
I believe 22, our gracious hosts for the second leg of our exchange program to Southern California this year are the other part of this collaboration, or so the scuttlebutt has been.
Now I hope that we are allied with them again in the elims 
02-27-2005 11:27 PM
phrozen solyd
Re: pic: West Coast Collaborationz and Team 254 Present
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Originally Posted by J Flex 188
I believe 22, our gracious hosts for the second leg of our exchange program to Southern California this year are the other part of this collaboration, or so the scuttlebutt has been.
Now I hope that we are allied with them again in the elims |
02-27-2005 11:31 PM
Tom Bottiglieri
Re: pic: West Coast Collaborationz and Team 254 Present
Team 60's robot also looks very similar, save the end effector.
(found on the team 60 website)
02-27-2005 11:50 PM
BoyWithCape195
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What ever that thing is 
02-28-2005 12:19 AM
MasonMM
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On the website for 254 it says you guys can pick up three tetras at once... I'm wondering where you get the tetras from... do you have to knock them off one by one from the auto loader, stack the three together on the floor, and then pick all three up from the bottom one? Or do you have a tricky way for the human player to load them on there? or can it all be done from the auto loader... I'm very curious to know...
and any problems snatching a tetra from a loader and still being on the HDPE triangle... it looks like your arm sticks our pretty far from your base.
02-28-2005 12:30 AM
Bill Gold
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Originally Posted by MasonMM
On the website for 254 it says you guys can pick up three tetras at once... I'm wondering where you get the tetras from... do you have to knock them off one by one from the auto loader, stack the three together on the floor, and then pick all three up from the bottom one? Or do you have a tricky way for the human player to load them on there? or can it all be done from the auto loader... I'm very curious to know...
and any problems snatching a tetra from a loader and still being on the HDPE triangle... it looks like your arm sticks our pretty far from your base. |
We don't have a problem being on the HDPE loading area.
02-28-2005 01:17 AM
activemx
Re: pic: West Coast Collaborationz and Team 254 Present
I think you should have waited or asked 60 for permission before posting their robot picture. Just my thoughts on it.
02-28-2005 01:31 AM
Cory
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Originally Posted by activemx
I think you should have waited or asked 60 for permission before posting their robot picture. Just my thoughts on it.
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My rule of thumb is if I don't want someone to see it, I don't put it in a place where it can be found.
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