19-06-2005 16:27

Winged Globe

Re: pic: Kaizen at BattleCry

So... was the single blue tetra on the yellow triangle of the toppled goal "contained" and scored? Was the other blue tetra seemingly on the toppled goal "stacked"?

19-06-2005 19:59

evelyn1503

Re: pic: Kaizen at BattleCry

OMG how did they do that.... thet is the coolest thing i have seen but thet must have cose someone some points

19-06-2005 20:16

Ryan Foley

Re: pic: Kaizen at BattleCry

Although I was not on that side of the field, I have an idea as to how it might have been scored. SOme of you may recall the center goal being tipped over at Mayhem, this is similar. When a goal is tipped, the opposing alliance owns that goal. So, if a red robot tipped that goal over, it would belong to blue.

I do not know about the tetras that would have been in. Rules allow removal of contained tetras, so the one on the ground probably wouldnt count. The one in the goal might, but it isnt stacked. Look closely, you will see that the one in the corner of the tipped goal is sitting in the apex of the goal. You can tell because 1) if it was stacked, the metal pipes would be inside the blue tetra, and 2) the apex resting against the neighboring goal was probably because the goal was probably dislodged first, and then tipped, with the pipe that is currently flat on the ground on the axis, and 3) for that side to be the top, the face of the goal that is close to the alliance station would have velcro on it, which by looking at the reflection in the diamond plate, it does not.

However, if the goal did have a tetra that was stacked on it which came off in the tip, it would probably be ruled as a descoring, so the opposing alliances's tetras would be scored (and the opposing alliance owns the goal already since it was tipped).

Any other refs have an opinion? This was only my second time reffing so I could be wrong.

19-06-2005 20:47

Jeff Rodriguez

Re: pic: Kaizen at BattleCry

Here's another camera angle of the same incident.
I was sitting in the first few rows of stands near the center of the field.
I did not see what happened during the match at all. I was looking at the other side of the field when I heard their robot hit the ground. I looked over and this is what I saw.
1276, did the fall bend your arm at all? It looks very slightly bent in the picture I took.

19-06-2005 20:58

tckma

Re: pic: Kaizen at BattleCry

19-06-2005 22:19

Ian Curtis

Re: pic: Kaizen at BattleCry

It was not bent but that fall snapped our arm pulley causing us to lose the use of our extension for two matches before it was fixed.