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25-09-2005 01:01
Ellery
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Ed, you don't know what you're talking about.
It was more like slicing ham with a chainsaw. We're still fixing it as we speak for our next match tomorrow.
Ellery
25-09-2005 02:28
Greg Needel
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just to elaborate. what i am holding in my hand is what is left of our front flipper. The rod in my hand is actually the inside rod from our cylinders, "phrisbee " was able not just to break our flipper but pull the end off of one of our pneumatic cylinders. we have some more pictures and video but basically we are 1-1 in a double elimination tournament with a tough match at like 11am.
BTW we are still fixing the bot...maybe a couple more hours
25-09-2005 02:44
Alex Cormier
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yay for no sleep and robotics! gota love the life of no sleep and building. i am running on brownies and coffee. yum. im tired. yeah. our next match is in a few hors and i shall get no sleep until then!
25-09-2005 08:31
Koko Ed
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Anyone got any hosting capabilities? I got a MOV. file of the slashing.
It was impressive.
25-09-2005 08:41
Ronald_raygun
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Google is starting to host video. Just thought I'd tell you.
25-09-2005 09:41
Jeff Rodriguez
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Thought I'd be a little more helpful
https://upload.video.google.com/
You have to have a goolge account and you have to install their upload program.
I'm not sure about their supported file formats though.
25-09-2005 10:32
Bcahn836
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I have a google video account so if any one wants to send me the video in .mov format i can upload it. bcahn836@gmail.com
25-09-2005 22:15
Alex Cormier
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well heres a little update for all of the folks at home.
Our first match was against the RIT robot Bane. We won that match because we turned them off from repeatedly hitting them. Our second match was against Phrizbee (see above link), they are the cause of this damage to our flipper. we left right after that match to get back to the X-Cats site and repair/beef up for our next match which was against Cyclone Bot. which is just as good as Phrizbee and is also a very damaging spinner. Around 3:00AM we finally went to bed and at 7:30 we woke up and started working again. We then found out that Cyclone Bot couldn't get their system working and we won by forfeit.Our fourth match was against Big Betty which was a flipper that won against Cyclone Bot previously. We had them over on their back and then Greg flipped them back over for more. We then found out by the judges vote we lost and we were done for the day since it was a double elimination tournament. we ended up at 2 wins and 2 losses.
the overall experience was great, i love robots, i love seeing kids entertained and Greg almost just melted when a kid came up to him to get his autograph. It was an amazing experience and i hope to personally build a middle weight or even smaller weight class robot for future competitions. I am tired and still on not much sleep and i must leave at 5AM to get back to college tomorrow so I'm off to bed.
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25-09-2005 22:30
Corey Balint
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Originally Posted by Alex Cormier
Greg almost just melted when a kid came up to him to get his autograph.
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But again, knocked out after three matches, so disappointed.
Especially after your undefeated record with our bot this year. 
Great job guys, sounds like it was an awesome time and great learning experience. Im now looking for events similar to this in my area, because it seems like a blast.
25-09-2005 22:42
Koko Ed
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Originally Posted by Alex Cormier
well heres a little update for all of the folks at home.
Our first match was against the RIT robot Bane. We won that match because we turned them off from repeatedly hitting them. Our second match was against Phrizbee (see above link), they are the cause of this damage to our flipper. we left right after that match to get back to the X-Cats site and repair/beef up for our next match which was against Cyclone Bot. which is just as good as Phrizbee and is also a very damaging spinner. Around 3:00AM we finally went to bed and at 7:30 we woke up and started working again. We then found out that Cyclone Bot couldn't get their system working and we won by forfeit.Our third match was against Big Betty which was a flipper that won against Cyclone Bot previously. We had them over on their back and then Greg flipped them back over for more. We then found out by the judges vote we lost and we were done for the day since it was a double elimination tournament. the overall experience was great, i love robots, i love seeing kids entertained and Greg almost just melted when a kid came up to him to get his autograph. It was an amazing experience and i hope to personally build a middle weight or even smaller weight class robot for future competitions. I am tired and still on not much sleep and i must leave at 5AM to get back to college tomorrow so I'm off to bed. |
I know alot of people around here despise Battlebots intensly but whether it's FIRST, Battlebots, Best or any of the other robotics events if it gets people talking about not only robots but science and technology. It's all good.
25-09-2005 22:51
Ellery
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Corey,
It was an awesome experience. Even though we built this comeptitive robot in pretty much less than 2 weeks it showed me 1) it can be done with hard work and 2) you can never overkill on a design. After walking into the pits on friday and seeing everybody else's intimidating bots it makes me feel that our original assumption were correct.
basically speaking " Go Big or Go Home!"
Also i personally witnessed the BattleBot IQ competition and it was ok but I feel FIRST is a far superior program (as long as it is properly sponsored and organized).
Also I'd like to personally thank a few friends from Kokomo Indiana for coming down and taking part in our team! Thanks AB & MK!
Ellery
25-09-2005 23:02
mechanicalbrain
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Whoa they allowed combustion engines! Just curious, what type of alternator did most people use then? Also I love Battlebots, heck they started me on robotics before FIRST (They have Bill and you can't beat that!). I think its a great next level to FIRST because of the greater freedom it allows, also the mayhem that a couple of us thoroughly enjoy! 
Anyhew I'm wondering if you guys are going to give us some good pics of the innards! I'm dying to take a peek at the proverbial intestines (
) of your robot! By the way great job! I love the work and i hope you guys do it again next year! I'm planning my own eventual design! Curious, do you know if they banned turbine engines (I'm serious)? I mean as long as it fits all the other constraint of course.
25-09-2005 23:05
MikeJ675
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Many combat bot events can be found at The Builders Database
26-09-2005 16:36
Alex Cormier
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here's some great pictures by Maikull. thanks!
Rochester D and C Newspaper Article.
Rochester D & C - Insider Article on Battle Bots
26-09-2005 19:24
starbot
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Not sure if you remember us, we were Team Alph, the table next to you. I was the one in the alf suit. You guys had a pretty cool design, though with most FIRST teams, it was severly underbuilt and weak for combat (My 12lber had a 2" bore cylinder, so for a heavyweight you should be looking at 5 or 6"). Hope you had fun, and I hope to see you guys with a bigger, better, stronger bot next time!
26-09-2005 20:33
Amanda Morrison
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Congrats to you guys for doing a great job. The media coverage was pretty cool:
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Originally Posted by D&C Local News
The event's sponsors, Haas Factory Outlet and Monroe Community College, want to help local manufacturers groom future workers, Boyle added.
Greg Needel, 21, represents that ideal candidate, said Boyle. Needel, who finished 2-2 for the weekend with his creation, Tetracide, is a fourth-year mechanical engineering technology student at Rochester Institute of Technology. "Engineering gets boring when you don't have something to work on," he said. |
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Originally Posted by D&C Insider Features
The double-elimination tournament will consist of about five three-minute bouts per hour — psycho robot on psycho robot — featuring professional and amateur builders of various levels of techno-sanity. Upwards of 75 builders will have robots accepted into the battle, all competing for a cash prize and (possibly more important) the respect of fellow builders.
RIT mechanical engineering student Greg Needel, 21, of Henrietta will be one of them — along with his heavyweight robot "Tetracide." Although he's been building robots since high school, this is his first violent competition — and his robot is fierce. "(Tetracide) has three pneumatic flippers each capable of throwing 800 pounds and a triangular wedge design which makes attacks (on it) difficult," he says. Winning, he adds, "takes a sound strategy, a good design, strong construction and a decent driver." And even though he's spent the entire summer assembling the robot, he says he's ready to see its possible destruction. "In a competition like this where it's really one idea versus another, losing is just like in chess," he says. "You got outplayed, but in the end you learned something." |
26-09-2005 21:25
Koko Ed
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Originally Posted by Amanda Morrison
Congrats to you guys for doing a great job. The media coverage was pretty cool:
It sounds like you guys did very well, and I was impressed by the amount of media coverage you got. Congrats! |
26-09-2005 21:31
Alex Cormier
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Originally Posted by starbot
Not sure if you remember us, we were Team Alph, the table next to you. I was the one in the alf suit. You guys had a pretty cool design, though with most FIRST teams, it was severly underbuilt and weak for combat (My 12lber had a 2" bore cylinder, so for a heavyweight you should be looking at 5 or 6"). Hope you had fun, and I hope to see you guys with a bigger, better, stronger bot next time!
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26-09-2005 22:27
Amanda Morrison
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Originally Posted by Koko Ed
The media knows Battle bots better than they know FIRST due to it being on TV. Plus the public likes when things crash and blow apart so the media is drawn to it. It's is kind of cool but I'd still rather do FIRST (more challenging).
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I'm sure there were plenty of articles about the competition and teams there, I just thought it was cool considering how many were about Team Midnight Invention. I guess you guys must have had a good impact.
26-09-2005 22:55
Koko Ed
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Originally Posted by Amanda Morrison
I meant the publicity that the individual team got - especially them concentrating on Greg as a future hire for companies. Tetracide and Midnight Invention seemed well-received for the media, no matter what competition they were in. The quotes they used were not solely about destruction of their creation or the fierceness of the competition, but also quoted Greg talking about the strategy and design involved, as well as the learning experience behind it. I thought they played him off to be a college student chock full of ingenuity.
I'm sure there were plenty of articles about the competition and teams there, I just thought it was cool considering how many were about Team Midnight Invention. I guess you guys must have had a good impact. |
27-09-2005 08:30
Ellery
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Originally Posted by starbot
Not sure if you remember us, we were Team Alph, the table next to you. I was the one in the alf suit. You guys had a pretty cool design, though with most FIRST teams, it was severly underbuilt and weak for combat (My 12lber had a 2" bore cylinder, so for a heavyweight you should be looking at 5 or 6"). Hope you had fun, and I hope to see you guys with a bigger, better, stronger bot next time!
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There's not such thing as overkill in this type of competition. Now we know
and we'll be redesigning it in a little while.
It was a pleasure to meet you guys too.
Ellery
28-09-2005 21:09
Alex Cormier
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heres the video koko was talking about.
set up of the robot starts at 1:43.
the match starts around 3:30
it hurts to watch.
any other videos ed?
28-09-2005 21:46
Greg Needel
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my whole body shudders when i see this...sorry it isn't a great angle but you get the idea.
28-09-2005 22:15
Koko Ed
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Originally Posted by Greg Needel
my whole body shudders when i see this...sorry it isn't a great angle but you get the idea.
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29-09-2005 00:32
mechanicalbrain
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Oooh that was nasty! Well I have to say that if all that happened was a broken flipper then you guys did one heck of a job building it! I can't wait until you guys get some good pics of the mechanics behind it on your site. What type of weapon did that bot use on you?
29-09-2005 08:31
Alex Cormier
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Originally Posted by mechanicalbrain
Oooh that was nasty! Well I have to say that if all that happened was a broken flipper then you guys did one heck of a job building it! I can't wait until you guys get some good pics of the mechanics behind it on your site. What type of weapon did that bot use on you?
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05-10-2005 12:03
Ellery
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Originally Posted by JMH
What happened there looks like your robot blew up.
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Ellery
06-10-2005 17:00
teamtestbot
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Good to see that some more people have gotten insight on the combat world, and that they got some media spotlight out of it too. I started out doing combat and still am, alongside FRC this year.
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