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1501 Electronics Board

roboticsguy1988

By: roboticsguy1988
New: 03-02-2006 23:29
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1501 Electronics Board

Here is a picture of our electronics board for the 2006 season. Just got to add some labels and of course put it on the robot and hook the motors and stuff up to it.

Now what could be under that censored box??? Nothing too secret just wanna have fun with my special piece on the board.... then show it off later, lol :-D

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03-02-2006 23:47

Greg Marra


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I wonder what that box next to the Spikes is for.

I also notice you have the serial cable from the Programming Port on the RC and the Serial Port on the Circuit Breaker running down to where that censored box is... Could it be some sort of auxiliary processor system?



03-02-2006 23:53

roboticsguy1988


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The box beside the Spikes i won't keep a secret, just because its not a big deal. It is a 7.2 volt backup battery charger.

For the censored box i will give details and some electrical diagrams and such closer to the end of the build season... But that still doesn't say what it is....

*edit* i need to learn how to spell (spelling changed) *edit*



04-02-2006 00:33

chrisinmd


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love the cable management system! very slick!
i was looking at something like that the other day.
looks like it works well
-Chris



04-02-2006 02:17

Chriszuma


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Originally Posted by chrisinmd
love the cable management system! very slick!
i was looking at something like that the other day.
looks like it works well
-Chris
Whoa, I didn't even realize what the channel does at first. No wonder it looks so clean. Nice job!



04-02-2006 02:34

Rombus


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ARGG you totally stole 1278s cable track! Thats the exact same stuff were using! Makes eveything look soo much neater

looks good



04-02-2006 02:37

Idaman323


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Hehe, ITS TOO PRETTY!!

I like how its nice and neat. Ours is somewhat like that... not really though.



04-02-2006 20:35

Goldeye


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It's plugged into the TTL port. Interesting



04-02-2006 20:56

Jay H 237


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Originally Posted by Chriszuma
Whoa, I didn't even realize what the channel does at first. No wonder it looks so clean. Nice job!
It's cable/wiring duct. Panduit is one of the major manufacturers of it and it's available in many different sizes.

Here's a link to it on Panduit's site http://www.panduit.com/products/browse.asp?classid=1006



04-02-2006 21:14

Goober!!!


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WOW it looks great!!! "Wait I'm on this team of course i have seen it", but today i wasn't there to see the finish bit of it!!!
P.S.:SHHHHHHHHH my team doesn't know that i skipped to go play paint ball!!!



04-02-2006 22:19

Rickertsen2


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Looks very nice but also large and heavy.



04-02-2006 22:44

Wayne Doenges


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P.S.:SHHHHHHHHH my team doesn't know that i skipped to go play paint ball!!!
GOOBER!!! Your pay has been docked 8 hours



04-02-2006 23:29

PEKMAN


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Are we allowed to use the breaker board from 05?

Regerdless, nice board.



04-02-2006 23:44

lukevanoort


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Are we allowed to use the breaker board from 05?

Regerdless, nice board.
Yes



04-02-2006 23:45

geeknerd99


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I spy the serial TTL-whatever card plugged into the robot controller. Perhaps it's a functional camera that 1501 has managed to get to work?



05-02-2006 00:57

chrisr


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Quote:
Originally Posted by Goober!!!
WOW it looks great!!! "Wait I'm on this team of course i have seen it", but today i wasn't there to see the finish bit of it!!!
P.S.:SHHHHHHHHH my team doesn't know that i skipped to go play paint ball!!!

---We do now, Goob!!!! No power tools for a week!



05-02-2006 01:11

roboticsguy1988


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Quote:
Originally Posted by Goober!!!
P.S.:SHHHHHHHHH my team doesn't know that i skipped to go play paint ball!!!
I already did know that!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wayne Doenges
GOOBER!!! Your pay has been docked 8 hours
Good Job, Wayne

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Originally Posted by Rickertsen2
Looks very nice but also large and heavy.
Thank you, and yes it does weigh a bit, but with the way our team designs and builds our robot we can add some extra weighted stuff like this.

Quote:
Originally Posted by geeknerd99
I spy the serial TTL-whatever card plugged into the robot controller. Perhaps it's a functional camera that 1501 has managed to get to work?
Camera... who knows it could just be for decoration, it could be to trick you, it could just be there to add extra electronic coolness, or we could really have a camera.... who knows...........



05-02-2006 01:43

Tureyhall


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PLEASE tell me that's an external FPU under that censor bar........... i want an FPU on the robot SOOOOOO bad........



05-02-2006 12:00

Chris_Elston


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Experience is the name of the game... At first you don't succeed, try, try, again.

Camera Video....



Quote:
Originally Posted by geeknerd99
I spy the serial TTL-whatever card plugged into the robot controller. Perhaps it's a functional camera that 1501 has managed to get to work?



05-02-2006 21:01

Eldarion


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Camera... who knows it could just be for decoration, it could be to trick you, it could just be there to add extra electronic coolness, or we could really have a camera.... who knows...........
Well, seeing as you would be at a great disadvantage in this game without the camera, and your program port is tied to the breaker panel, and the TTL converter's PWM cable appears to go nowhere, and there aren't any PWM cables coming out of the censored area, we can logically deduce you have the camera behind that bar.

Or not...

Also, I see you added the remote program / reset buttons to your robot.



05-02-2006 21:20

roboticsguy1988


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Well, seeing as you would be at a great disadvantage in this game without the camera, and your program port is tied to the breaker panel, and the TTL converter's PWM cable appears to go nowhere, and there aren't any PWM cables coming out of the censored area, we can logically deduce you have the camera behind that bar.

Or not...

Also, I see you added the remote program / reset buttons to your robot.
Sorry to say its not a camera behind the censored box but your starting to think along the right lines.

My hint to everyone: Look at the cables that go to the censored box, there is TTL, remote program / reset cable, program cable, tether, breaker panel cable, and then a non connected PWM cable (what could that be for?).

It seems most of you are thinking either too high tech or too simple, you got to go in between the two.



05-02-2006 22:01

Eldarion


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Sorry to say its not a camera behind the censored box but your starting to think along the right lines.

My hint to everyone: Look at the cables that go to the censored box, there is TTL, remote program / reset cable, program cable, tether, breaker panel cable, and then a non connected PWM cable (what could that be for?).

It seems most of you are thinking either too high tech or too simple, you got to go in between the two.
OK, a couple of ideas.

Could it be an ultrasonic ranging head, or perhaps just a connector that allows the electronics board to be easily taken off of and put back on the robot?

Can I get a confirmation that it is not an auxiliary processor, or would that be revealing too much?



05-02-2006 22:08

roboticsguy1988


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OK, a couple of ideas.

Could it be an ultrasonic ranging head, or perhaps just a connector that allows the electronics board to be easily taken off of and put back on the robot?

Can I get a confirmation that it is not an auxiliary processor, or would that be revealing too much?
No to the first two. But it does make things simpler for everyone, well except for the person making and wiring this custom piece(me).

Its not an auxiliary processor, besides wouldn't that violate the rules?



05-02-2006 22:15

devicenull


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No to the first two. But it does make things simpler for everyone, well except for the person making and wiring this custom piece(me).

Its not an auxiliary processor, besides wouldn't that violate the rules?
It could be, as long as it's in the cost requirements. The Edu-RC fits, I believe, but that's kind of pointless to be adding. Could be some sort of linux machine for processing other stuff (GumStix?)



05-02-2006 22:16

BoyWithCape195


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Am I the only person that the picture shows up as broken to? (small box with small red X in it)



05-02-2006 22:19

Eldarion


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Am I the only person that the picture shows up as broken to? (small box with small red X in it)
Only one so far. What browser and operating system are you using?



05-02-2006 22:20

BoyWithCape195


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Explorer 6.0.2900.2180

Windows XP Professional



05-02-2006 22:57

mechanicalbrain


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I spy with my little eye flag terminals. Sheathed ones no less, nice. Ive only found one supplier, may I ask where yours came from?



05-02-2006 23:05

roboticsguy1988


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I spy with my little eye flag terminals. Sheathed ones no less, nice. Ive only found one supplier, may I ask where yours came from?
Radioshack, a bit more than i would like to pay, but well worth the cost, or at least i think.



06-02-2006 02:29

Eldarion


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No to the first two. But it does make things simpler for everyone, well except for the person making and wiring this custom piece(me).
I think I figured it out! I found this while browsing ChiefDelphi, and it matches your description perfectly.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/pi...gle&picid=9458

The only thing that puzzles me is the camera TTL converter cable going into the censored area, but I suppose it could exit along the bottom just as easily.



06-02-2006 03:16

roboticsguy1988


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Originally Posted by Eldarion
I think I figured it out! I found this while browsing ChiefDelphi, and it matches your description perfectly.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/pi...gle&picid=9458

The only thing that puzzles me is the camera TTL converter cable going into the censored area, but I suppose it oculd exit along the bottom just as easily.
Very nice, but no, thats not it. too many switches and my thing doens't control autonomous

However we do have a autonomous selecter on our OI Station. We used it last year when i was on programming, but i don't know if there using it this year... i think so though.



06-02-2006 03:28

Eldarion


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Very nice, but no, thats not it. too many switches and my thing doens't control autonomous.
Rats! I guess I'll give up for now.

At least I can infer that it has several switches on it, right?



06-02-2006 21:54

sgsdragons


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I KNOW WHAT IT IS!!!!!!!!!!





IT'S A DEVISE TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!!!

Josh
Team Driver/Designer



06-02-2006 22:25

roboticsguy1988


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Originally Posted by Eldarion
Rats! I guess I'll give up for now.

At least I can infer that it has several switches on it, right?
Maybe not whats under the censor box but maybe somewhere else...

Quote:
Originally Posted by sgsdragons
I KNOW WHAT IT IS!!!!!!!!!!





IT'S A DEVISE TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!!!
Howd you know?



06-02-2006 23:01

Goldeye


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Note the homophony(homonymity?) in "CENSOR" box



07-02-2006 23:34

roboticsguy1988


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Originally Posted by Goldeye
Note the homophony(homonymity?) in "CENSOR" box
lol... i actually was wondering would anyone would say anything but nope, no relation to "sensors" lol. If thats what you ment, i don't know, me and big words, or medium words, lol, don't mix, give me a computer or an electronics board, then i am good



08-02-2006 17:51

want2modmygt


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Sweet board! I love it!



08-02-2006 21:23

roboticsguy1988


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Those electrical schematics and the true picture are going to be running a bit late as i had some things come up recently.



10-02-2006 03:02

Wayne Doenges


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Actually the censored banner is just that, a banner. There is nothing under it
Pay no mind to that box behind, errr...I mean under the curtain



10-02-2006 08:09

keagara


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i think that it looks very clean and neat



13-02-2006 20:03

sgsdragons


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So are you going to tell us what it is??? PLEASE DO!!!!!!!!!!

Josh
Team Driver/Designer



13-02-2006 20:52

imax48236


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I'm curious to see what's behind the censored block, but overall, great job guys. I didn't think wiring that clean was possible.

Mike, 1701



13-02-2006 22:10

roboticsguy1988


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Yeah sorry guys, we are running a bit behind our planned schedule so i am trying to catch up. I need to finish some stuff for the robot and then i will type up a small explanation and attach a picture of whats under the censored box. Electrical diagrams will come a bit later...

I apologize once again.



20-02-2006 00:40

roboticsguy1988


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Sorry it took so long, i will explain this real quick before going to bed.

The box on the board is just a conjunction box taking the program, the breaker panel, the tether, the camera TTL, and the remote Rest and Program buttons and putting them into a DB25 cable. There is a switch on the box to go from Programming mode and feedback to breaker panel feedback.

There will be two external boxes, one will be on the robot and will have the reset and program buttons and the Camera TTL on and off. While the other is going to be built in to the OI Controller Station. From there not only will we be able to have a Remote Reset and program button, camera TTL on and off switch, but we will be able to leave the laptop at our OI station and control everything during practice mode and have it tethered while going through one cable. Otherwise having a tether cable, a program cable, and having to keep putting the robot into program mode and disconnecting and reconnecting the TTL chip on the board all the time gets rather annoying.

Our DB25 Cable is 25 feet long, and we took into consideration that the RS232 data can only travel about 50 feet.

I will be posting electrical schematics hopefully soon.

P.S. This board has changed since this picture was taken i will take a final picture before we pack our beauty up in the crate.



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