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GTR Ladder

By: Steve W
New: 06-04-2006 21:24
Updated: 06-04-2006 21:24
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GTR Ladder

This is the ladder that was used at GTR. We had to do hand entries for all levels.

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06-04-2006 21:31

Alex Cormier


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how about the rankings and all that stuff that online hasn't updated yet?



06-04-2006 21:36

Steve W


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I do not know why they are not correct but I will inquire.



06-04-2006 21:52

Tristan Lall


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how about the rankings and all that stuff that online hasn't updated yet?
As a result of the rather unconventional elimination rounds (which varied from those prescribed in Section 8), the Hatch scoring/field control system wasn't able to accomodate all of the results into its database. We actually used three instances of the Hatch software to run that event; one on each field, doing only field control and real-time scoring, and a third which was unconnected to a field, and which tabulated the rankings and handled final scores. Most pertinently, data from the first, second and third rounds probably won't be available, unless it can be wrested from the backup files on the auxillary scoring computers. The final rounds might be available, but due to the necessity of running the finals from a fresh copy of the database (in order to account for the teams coming from each field), the database that FIRST posted actually denotes the finals as QF2 in order to avoid repopulating the already-completed rounds with match results (to save time). The extra award data was entered manually, because the database wasn't set up for the added information. As for the missing qualification matches, I'm not sure where they went. I sent FIRST a copy of the database which (I thought) included everything up to Q124, and the aforementioned mess in the eliminations.

Convoluted? Yes, very.



06-04-2006 21:57

Richard Wallace


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Meanwhile see elimination pairings and results and Saturday Awards.

Also from my notes the top 32 seeds were as follows: 1114, 378, 1680, 229, 703, 296, 49, 1241, 1547, 1353, 1281, 65, 217, 1503, 1219, 610, 843, 771, 63, 1419, 1620, 48, 1009, 854, 907, 1246, 1564, 849, 1006, 1305, 919, 45, ...



06-04-2006 22:02

Alex Cormier


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how about rankings. and w-l-t.



06-04-2006 22:15

Richard Wallace


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how about rankings. and w-l-t.
My notes aren't that detailed. Based on Tristan's explanation above I guess you'll have to wait for the files to get unconvoluted. [An operation not to be confused with deconvolution!]



06-04-2006 22:19

Alex Cormier


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My notes aren't that detailed. Based on Tristan's explanation above I guess you'll have to wait for the files to get unconvoluted. [An operation not to be confused with deconvolution!]
simply interesting.



06-04-2006 22:33

Pat Fairbank


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I could have sworn that I had the correct standings data on my laptop, since it was used as the Sundial server at the GTR, but it seems to have reverted to the same data from halfway through the qualification rounds that the pit display was erroneously showing Saturday at one point. Sorry.



06-04-2006 22:51

xzvrw2


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we were 8-3



07-04-2006 08:36

Bongle


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1281 was 8-2, and everyone above them was that or better. Nobody was unbeaten. I think the 9-1/8-2 transition came at about 4th or 5th place.



07-04-2006 15:23

Tim Delles


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1281 was 8-2, and everyone above them was that or better. Nobody was unbeaten. I think the 9-1/8-2 transition came at about 4th or 5th place.
It was 5th place changed to 8-2. We were the last 9-1 team, since we had the lowest ranking points.



07-04-2006 18:57

xzvrw2


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do you know what your ranking points were?



07-04-2006 20:33

Tim Delles


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Well our ranking points were around 16.8 if i remember correctly.

Our qualification points (w/l/t) was at 18.



08-04-2006 10:23

xzvrw2


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if we would have won the last match against 1114, we would have been 6th then. we had around like 13 qps or something like that.



10-04-2006 21:36

Pat Fairbank


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Originally Posted by Tristan Lall
As a result of the rather unconventional elimination rounds (which varied from those prescribed in Section 8), the Hatch scoring/field control system wasn't able to accomodate all of the results into its database. We actually used three instances of the Hatch software to run that event; one on each field, doing only field control and real-time scoring, and a third which was unconnected to a field, and which tabulated the rankings and handled final scores. Most pertinently, data from the first, second and third rounds probably won't be available, unless it can be wrested from the backup files on the auxillary scoring computers. The final rounds might be available, but due to the necessity of running the finals from a fresh copy of the database (in order to account for the teams coming from each field), the database that FIRST posted actually denotes the finals as QF2 in order to avoid repopulating the already-completed rounds with match results (to save time). The extra award data was entered manually, because the database wasn't set up for the added information. As for the missing qualification matches, I'm not sure where they went. I sent FIRST a copy of the database which (I thought) included everything up to Q124, and the aforementioned mess in the eliminations.
I reviewed Tristan's files in the hopes of getting the correct scores out, but unfortunately only the real-time scores for Chevrolet Field were contained therein.

I'm afraid the chances of obtaining the GTR results and standings soon are slim-to-none, since the computer with the correct scoring database is in a crate on a truck or in a warehouse somewhere, to be unpacked only two weeks hence in Atlanta.



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