14-01-2007 12:03

Psychoflood

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wow, i remember when you found this yesterday. I had a whole bunch of people over from the team, and i mean... sure we were a little tired and maybe we don't all have straight A+'s in english, but comon... that's just horrible xD

14-01-2007 14:15

NoSkaOnTheRadio

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bad grammar is everywhere these days!

I was taking the T yesterday (the Boston subway, for people who aren't from around here) and they recently switched to this totally confusing and counterintuitive fare system. There were a few signs up on the ticket vending machines, all reading "If your not sure what kind of ticket to purchase, ask an attendant." Fortunately I had a pen in my pocket, and i corrected them to "If you're not sure..."

I honestly do fear for the English language...

14-01-2007 14:35

Pavan Dave

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I thought the gaming world had it bad with, "U" "R" "kewl" etc., but now in the real world as well?

"Bye bye English, *Waves* it was good knowing you."

Pavan.

15-01-2007 11:23

Gertlex

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People overreact to that sort of thing. Most commonly it's a typo. Just because you perhaps type it's instead of its or then instead of than doesn't make you a moron. I've always had the desire to punch people who instead assume you don't know the rule AND go into a long one-on-one spiel about how to use that piece of grammar.

15-01-2007 12:53

Adam Richards

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I don't think that its overreacting at all. A lot of times, people are ignorant to the fact that they're wrong in such a situation, and make the same mistake time and time again. When many people make an error involving their/they're/there or your/you're, they aren't aware of the differences and use them improperly. English might have the largest vocabulary out of every language in the world, but not caring about the most simple usage of words is simply ridiculous.

15-01-2007 16:56

technoL

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Your English teacher would be proud! One of the things that ticks me the most is the common misspelling of the word grammar itself.

03-12-2007 19:20

FourPenguins

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Typo or not, it's incorrect. If they know the rules, then they're being careless, and that's arguably worse.

03-12-2007 20:42

sanddrag

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The one that bugs me is that some time in the past year or two "a" has become an acceptable replacement for "per." I see prices listed as $29.99 a month or $4.00 a pound.

04-12-2007 10:39

Chief Pride

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agreed, grammar is such a silly thing to call someone ignorant over ... :/

04-12-2007 13:11

JudyVandy

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Ah...I think it's as follows: "...over which to call someone ingnorant." Don't end a sentence with a preposition.

Sorry! I'm a grammar geek, too!

04-12-2007 13:25

lukevanoort

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Actually, you can end a sentence with a preposition to your heart's content--no rules of grammar are violated by doing it. Such usage, however, can easily result in prepositions with unclear or completely missing objects, which can make it difficult to determine a sentence's meaning. It is better to avoid ending with prepositions in the first place (especially in formal writing), but it isn't like saying "they is going to the house" or some other clearly incorrect grammatical construct.

04-12-2007 21:35

Ross340

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I think I would have been more distracted by the "calculation indicates design failure!" line... =P If i saw that, I wouldn't be searching it for grammar errors. haha. but that's what we call an eye for detail.

04-12-2007 22:06

Alexa Stott

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Um...since when is it the gaming world's fault? I think you meant to say "the internet," not "the gaming world."

Funny story about grammar, actually...I saw in our girls' locker room a message that read "Your a *edited for content*" written in blue Sharpie. Someone went in later and took her pen and wrote in the missing apostrophe and the "e" at the end of "you're" to make the statement grammatically correct.

04-12-2007 23:01

JaneYoung

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This is an opinion of mine. It is one that I value.
One must work on their language every day. It shouldn't be taken for granted. I've always held this opinion simply because my maternal grandmother and my mother each had a command of the English language, written and verbal, that I have admired and respected. Luckily for me, I love dictionaries and like to find words to learn and understand. As far as punctuation and typos, I think we have to work with those as well. There is a reason to proof your work, then proof again, then proof again. Something along the lines of - constant vigilance -

04-12-2007 23:17

Tytus Gerrish

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the level of concern this discovery should arouse in an average human being should be zero

05-12-2007 07:13

Taylor

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It has been said that the rock band Van Halen always requested a jar of M&M candies, with all the orange ones removed at all their concert venues. The reasoning behind this is that if the producers were thorough enough to cover this tiny detail, everything else should be smooth.

Likewise, when I see a glaring error such as this, it makes me wonder what more significant errors have been made. I would feel quite silly after spending thousands of dollars on a product only to find it had been created by unprofessional people too lazy to proofread.

Microsoft notwithstanding.

05-12-2007 08:23

JaneYoung

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I make small errors all the time and have to correct them. Working in a law office, it is important that the work and letters be submitted correctly. Small errors can be overlooked or not easily seen.

How many errors can be made before the code that teams write won't work? I'm honestly asking this question because I don't know.

05-12-2007 14:29

Elgin Clock

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Did the edited word start with an A or any other vowel?
If so, then you should have added a letter N to make it "an" as well.


I hate the Your vs You're mix up. It's found like that everywhere I look nowadays it seems.

Then again, I'm sometimes stumped with the many forms of There, Their, and They're occasionally. Mostly There & Their.

I know There is "over there" (ie: place) & Their is used in "their dog" (ie: Posession) & They're is They Are (ie: intends to come before an action) but I still question myself with some sentences that use them.

Eh..

English is the language that combines every other language & butchers them & itself, and violates its own rules all the time anyways, so whatever!



A code is kinda different where as there are syntax rules you have to follow and if you don't follow them correctly, you won't get far with the code, or it will just not perform its task.

English language on the other hand is not like code, because if you type a sentence like "Look at that dog over their" (instead of there) - Then people have the common sense to know what you are talking about, but it just looks bad.
It performs its duty, but is frowned upon as opposed to the code which won't work correctly if there is an error.

05-12-2007 17:06

temujin

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This is something up with which I will not put.

05-12-2007 22:03

DonRotolo

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[quote=JudyVandy;655400]Ah...I think it's as follows: "...over which to call someone ingnorant." Don't end a sentence with a preposition.]/QUOTE]

A preposition is a terrible thing to end a sentence with.

Don

05-12-2007 22:17

Pavan Dave

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Some kid, I don't know his name, used to go to the bathrooms at our school and correct both spelling and grammar inside of the stalls. It is kind of funny if you think about it and I have actually gone into some of those stalls JUST to see these "corrections" and they're quite interesting....On another note, if I ever do see a incorrectly spelled word or improper grammar in a stall, I will make sure to correct it because 99.9% of the time I have a pen, pencil, and/or sharpie in my pocket!

06-12-2007 03:49

synth3tk

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Geek!!! Whoops, did I say that out loud?

06-12-2007 07:28

Taylor

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He said pen, pencil or sharpie - not calculator, palm pilot or abacus.

06-12-2007 11:55

basicxman

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lol...ive never seen anyone carry around a palm in their front pocket (because this is kind of a grammer thread, notice i used the right 'their')

06-12-2007 13:07

Taylor

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::rolls eyes::
I count six grammatical/spelling errors in this entry, not counting duplicates. Anybody top that?
/::rolls eyes::

07-12-2007 17:33

synth3tk

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i dunno. if it'd were up too me, da whole enlgish languge wud be definatly diff'rent.

07-12-2007 17:55

lukevanoort

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The error that bothers me the most in people's writing AND speech is not a grammatical error, but one of a mis-write/speak of a common expression. Often, I see people talk/write about something then say/write something along the lines of "Of course, it doesn't really matter to me, I could care less what happens." Well, if you think about it, that implies that they both don't care ('doesn't matter to me') and do care because to be able to care less one must care in the first place. So, what they are really saying/writing is "Of course, it doesn't really matter to me, I really do care some," which is 1) a contradiction and 2) not what the speaker/writer meant to say/write. It really should be "I couldn't care less," which implies that the the speaker/writer doesn't care at all because it is impossible for him/her to care less. (Of course, this assumes that there is no such thing as negative caring. I guess one could say that if how much you care must me a positive number or absolute value of a negative one. If you think about it, caring in a negative way is still caring just caring in a mean way, which is still caring. So, how much you care is not a vector quantity, as it only has magnitude, but not direction.... can you tell I'm a math/science person?)

07-12-2007 18:04

Alex.Norton

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I carry my palm with me in my pocket all the time. I couldn't conceive leaving my brain behind in my pack or something.

On the subject of grammar nazis i will actively defy anyone who corrects my grammar ESPECIALLY if my sentence made sense If you can understand my sentence then i dont care if their are grammar mistakes

there have fun with that one... I will happily go where no man has gone before when it comes to bad grammar.

Alex

07-12-2007 18:36

JaneYoung

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Alex, I understand what you are saying in your playful way.

I think about a couple of things when reading posts in Chief Delphi -
1. There are so many excellent opportunities to participate in discussions regarding just about any topic involving FIRST. If a post is badly worded or contains typos and errors, it can break down the flow of communication. That could impact the opportunity for the poster to present his or her thoughts clearly to a valuable and respected audience. (When posting in CD, it is always wise to remember who our readers are.)

2. Many students begin posting on CD as freshmen and sophomores on FIRST teams. When the times comes for applying to colleges and universities as seniors, the students have had the opportunity to participate in these fora, developing their skills in areas of communication, persuasion, and in the written language, itself. How cool is that?!

07-12-2007 19:48

lukevanoort

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I used to agree with you; I never really liked grammar, thought it as too uptight, a waste of time, just generally stupid, etc. My current English teacher changed my mind. Grammar is very important to making sure that the point that people understand from your sentence is the point that you meant for them to understand. Good grammar can also make what you write easier to read; conversely, bad grammar will make what you write harder to read. Another important thing to remember on the Internet is that many people come from countries where English is not the native tongue; in such an environment with people who may not have an excellent command of slang and have difficulty understanding text written with poor grammar, it is impolite and inconsiderate to use bad (or non-standard) grammar and spelling, especially when it is on purpose.

07-12-2007 20:33

BigJ

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As a previous poster said, syntax rues must be followed or you won't go far.

But, in some cases, as in variable names (a name you give to a stored value), you could technically make a spelling error as many times as you wanted...

given that you made the same exact spelling error everywhere in the code