08-11-2007 12:11

Marc P.

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Well, I guess the cat's out of the bag...er... bin now.

08-11-2007 12:37

Rich Wong

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Hmmmm......

Kitty Of Parts.

08-11-2007 12:50

Pavan Dave

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Is that legal? ... By US law that would be animal cruelty wouldn't it? ... I don't think Dean, Dave, or Woodie would do something like that.... On top of that we'd have PETA on our backs at every competition and possibly even the FBI/Local Police raid some of our "shops".... On top of that, I doubt a cat or "kitty" contains many good "parts" to build a bot out of....

BUT .. I know you didn't mean it like that Mr. Wong.

08-11-2007 12:52

Richard Wallace

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A potential power source, if you can solve the age-old problem of controlling cats. That one is beyond my engineering ability.

08-11-2007 12:54

JohnBoucher

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We're going to play with hairballs?

08-11-2007 13:04

vivek16

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YAY!!! Its always good to see FIRST give teams things they need.... like the pictured hammer. eventually they might even start giving out other tools

08-11-2007 13:05

Stuart

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OMG its Toonces the driving cat.
Warning: although Toonces can drive . . hes not very good at it.

08-11-2007 13:10

Billfred

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Gerbils have long been featured as illegal energy sources in the parts use flowchart--apparently, the specificity was intentional.

08-11-2007 13:13

GaryVoshol

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PETA? People Eating Tasty Animals?

08-11-2007 13:15

lukevanoort

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OMG! We're all getting a Technokitten in our kits! Awesome, my team could do with a more ballsy drive system.

08-11-2007 13:17

TD78

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I've seen this delivish kitten in person and I must say that most people may not want to find one in their KOP come January!!

08-11-2007 13:20

Morgan Gillespie

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What about mice?
Anyone recall this from Team 114 Eagle Strike's 2006 AVA Entry?

Sure it was just an, "idea," but that shows people were thinking about it...
It is only a matter of time.

08-11-2007 13:26

JaneYoung

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The purrfect response = eek! (I know, I know - cheesy)

08-11-2007 13:29

Richard Wallace

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I like this concept, but you should lose the cheese, put the mouse where the cheese used to be, put the cat where the mouse used to be, and enlarge the cage-wheel. Cat-power beats mouse-power.

08-11-2007 13:44

Zyik

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Will they all be standard issue gray or can we get another color?

08-11-2007 13:48

Fred Sayre

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Perfect! Our mentors are already very experienced at herding cats

08-11-2007 14:54

Wayne C.

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the word catastrophe comes to mind ( no further explanation there)

stick to inflatable clowns...

08-11-2007 14:56

Elgin Clock

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LMAO!!! I has a bin!!!!

Finally something on these forums truely worth Awwwing at...

So....


Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!
HOW CUTE!!!!!!!


Will there be tech support in case this sucker starts acting up?
How about a free replacement warranty (valid only 9 times)? LOL


And in typical FIRST teaser fashion, only half of the item in question is shown so FIRSTers can speculate whether or not their is more than appears in the bin itself. Will we get a whole cat? Just a cute furry head? Will we be getting a cat-dog hybrid in the kit? What kid of upgrades will be available? Will Andy-Mark sell an alternative??? Will it be included in the final weight during inspection?? What if it eats a lot before competition and raises up our weight class? - Is that just another one of FIRSTs "real world challenges" with the KOP to deal with this year??? The questions go on and on!!!

What about that pesky rule 8.5.3?

Will that be rewriten to include "Cat" as an alternative power source, or is it just for decoration???


Now I understand why FIRST banned laser pointers a few years back. IN anticipation for this new addition. I know laser pointers make my cats freak out. lol
And no more CMU cam folks, just some good ol' fashioned Cat Vision!
Dark fields will not be a problem when you have this addition on your bot!

And... you know someone had to say it, but I think this is a sure sign there isn't going to be a water game.

You thought Water & Electronics didn't mix?
Try putting the cat in some water, and you'll see the true definition of an operator error!!

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! Too much thinking about this!!!
Must learn secret of teaser!!!


Hmm... must find audio clip of Kitty Cats now to play at the start of a match this year, or a dog barking. lol

Maybe even something by Cat Stevens?

08-11-2007 15:01

Mike Betts

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From a technical aspect, won't you have corrosion problems if you try welding felines to aluminum?

08-11-2007 15:04

Billfred

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I think that'd be the least of your worries.

I think that zip ties, in combination with pool noodles, would allow for better wear characteristics.

08-11-2007 15:57

wingnut1705

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That shouldn't be a problem. As long as the cat is keeping it's mechanical energy as mechanical energy it will be legal.

08-11-2007 16:02

Richard Wallace

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Animals store energy chemically, in the form of phosphate bonds. So FIRST will need to re-write the rule if cat-power is going to be allowed.

08-11-2007 16:50

Travis Hoffman

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Is a CATS item considered a COTS item?

What if I wish to employ more CATS items on my robot?

08-11-2007 17:26

Uberbots

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The chemical and muscle power of cats is nothing compared to this:
http://uberbots.org/thecat%20copy.jpg

OK... i guess you will have to click it. I edited this post and the image disappeared )=

08-11-2007 17:27

artdutra04

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This picture is begging to be made into a LOLcat. So naturally, I had to make a few using this photo.

08-11-2007 17:51

chris31

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LOL. I was waiting for someone to do that.

08-11-2007 17:52

KathieK

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Well, there goes any notion of having a NEMO workshop once those bins are opened....

08-11-2007 18:12

GVDrummer

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hmmm..... could the cats come in colors that match our teams? ....it would be a problem considering our maskot is a dog... i don't know how that would work out.

08-11-2007 18:56

Delia

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awww...too cute! but really- cats and robots, awesome.

08-11-2007 21:22

gblake

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No, No, It's a Kit of Pussycats

08-11-2007 21:34

Tetraman

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Here is a LOLcat

08-11-2007 22:58

Taylor

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This will prove to be yet another hardship on the robot inspection crews. Not only will they have to inspect the robots for the usual height, weight, etc. restrictions, but now they'll have to check it for worms and fleas.

On the other hand, the autonomous period should prove to be interesting.

Where will we place the bicycle flag?

I can already imagine the pit announcements, "Team 3157 is in need of 1/4-20 bolts and some Meow Mix"

...Circle, Triangle, Circle, Circle, Mammal...Banana...Square...Triangle...Jello...

Retractable manipulators are the wave of the future.

Overheard conversation between two FIRST moms in Feb 2008: "Timmy brought the robot home again to work on it. Last year he broke a lamp testing it; this year our uphostery and curtains are ruined."

Since cats always land on their feet, the tipping rule has been rendered obsolete.

08-11-2007 23:49

JBotAlan

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Strangely enough, after a late night at the shop I was marveling at my cat's ability to track my hand as I waved it in front of his face...I wondered how long it would be before someone else noticed this.

JBot

09-11-2007 00:35

MissInformation

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Hey, if they come with the kit of parts, how can Eric say no to a third cat? And how do I order a personal KOP?

Cats and robots are a natural mix, just ask my two:





Heidi

09-11-2007 06:36

wilmo

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Non-functional decoration?

09-11-2007 07:40

GaryVoshol

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Rub a bar of amber over its fur and collect the static electricity.


Maybe this'll finally ban "Who Let the Dogs Out".

09-11-2007 07:55

Al Skierkiewicz

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I see a whole slew of rules changes...
Energy used in First robots may come from the KOP supplied kitty.
KOP parts may not be modified in any way except the supplied kitty may be groomed and must have appropriate flea control.
Kittie spares may be brought to competition but must be corralled in the teams pit area. Spares may be purchased locally but must maintain the same weight and size as the KOP kitty. No kitty claws may contact or damage FIRST carpet or inspection devices.
ASPCA safety advisors will be working the pit area to insure that teams use the KOP kitty as intended and will issue kitty koins to teams who demonstrate purfect kitty practices.
As suggested by a certain Virginia mentor the KOP kitty will now be refered to as KK.

09-11-2007 08:38

Aidan F. Browne

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Geez... whats all this talk about power sources and inspections? Its the game object folks!

Same general rules apply ... only posession of one... herding... deflated game object is still a game object...etc

09-11-2007 09:10

Rosiebotboss

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My thoughts exactly!! I picture 4 giant scratching posts with green lights arranged in a square, a litter box suspended from chains supported by the 4 posts......the object is to clean the litter box while several robotics mice run around the field distracting the KK that provides the ONLY power source to the robot.

09-11-2007 09:20

Elgin Clock

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This just in. FIRST partners with Nestle' so no copyright issues will arise in 2008.

Presenting the latest in Robotic technology:



New pictures of Kit-Kat just leaked today.
Autonomous mode is gonna be sooooooo sweet this year with the addition of Kit-Kat!



A picture of some general accesories was also leaked from a well known but undisclosed supplier today as well. *cough*Andy-Mark*cough*

09-11-2007 09:22

3dude_2231

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he's gonna arrive pretty wet to Israel

are you sure it's a cat, and not that short team member that didn't shave during build season?
it could be very misleading..

Cats&Bots rule!

09-11-2007 09:29

vivek16

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just spray paint it.

09-11-2007 09:32

JaneYoung

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Ok, so the game is called:
- Scratch 'n' Snatch
- Claw the Wall
- Herdless Horrors
- Catch the Kitty If You Can

--
ok, ok - Herdless Horrors - is not that good, I admit.

09-11-2007 11:59

Rich Wong

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(Possible)

Q&A submitted to FIRST:

Does the kitty kat become a member of the team or is it still consider a KOP?

I just need to know so I came order a pair of safety glasses and xxxxxxxxs T-shirt.

09-11-2007 12:05

EricH

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I forsee a lot of problems if the cat isn't declawed. From volunteers: "Ouch! Ouch!" as they herd the cats. Plus the problem of keeping them clean. (Is there anything madder than a cat who's being bathed?)

09-11-2007 12:08

Billfred

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This is why teams have freshmen.

(Alternatively: This is why I, as a mentor, prefer for kids to do the work when it's possible.)

09-11-2007 13:21

George

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OK, I have some Questions:
1) Is it 12 volt?
2) can we use it as a power amplifier for the mouse drive?
3) will this tear up carpet if used as direct drive?
4) other than teeth and claws are there any attachment point?
5) will we get DQ'd if it malls the ref?
6) after checking out some units we had on a shelf, where's the off switch?

Have Fun
Geo.

09-11-2007 15:07

3dude_2231

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you can't expect us to answer these Qs
read the datasheet or consult it's mommy.

09-11-2007 15:36

George

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Our unit ate the data sheet andwe have not been able to find mommy for weeks, (remeber the off switch question?)

Still Fun!
Geo.

Ps MEOW!!!!!

09-11-2007 21:47

Zyik

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Team mate of mine made this. She requested I post this.

10-11-2007 16:51

Joe G.

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Water game speculaton will end, and milk game speculation will begin

11-11-2007 10:25

geeknerd99

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Alright! A camera that I can finally get to work more than 30% of the time! Built in rangefinding as well! Complete with audio sensors too, for that second level of robot situational awareness! Did I mention it can function where even human eyes don't cut it, without needing any sort of IR illumination? And on top of that, fellow teammates will handle it better and more carefully, and in the unlikely event that it is dropped, it has built in shock absorbers that function automatically!

Oh wait. I'm allergic to cats.

12-11-2007 09:37

Andy Baker

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Oh, boy... we get a perpetual motion machine in the KoP! All we need to do is add buttered toast.

Andy B.

12-11-2007 10:02

Taylor

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Not if you've got some poof balls!

12-11-2007 10:08

Rich Wong

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The toaster, bread, and butter is inside the RED bin.