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1458 Manipulator prototype1

Woody1458

By: Woody1458
New: 12-01-2008 17:46
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1458 Manipulator prototype1

This was our first prototype of 1 of our 2 leading design. A small CIM powers via belt drive a conveyor belt system, that sucks the ball in that spits out. Hopefully to be mounted on a forklift.

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12-01-2008 18:18

Seraph117


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cool... looks a little faulty though...

just think what would happen if someone hits you hard when you have the ball



12-01-2008 18:26

Akash Rastogi


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cool... looks a little faulty though...

just think what would happen if someone hits you hard when you have the ball
And that's why we prototype



12-01-2008 18:37

Woody1458


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the angle is deceiving, there are two posts on top, one on bottom. we plan on adding plastic sides but of course we cant fully enclose (only 28" of bot, 40" of ball)



12-01-2008 19:15

abeD


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If the belt is pushing down hard enough it doesn't look like it will come loose, I like this design nice job on the prototype. What kind of reduction/rpm is the belt running at?



12-01-2008 20:20

=Martin=Taylor=


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Cool! Looks like you guys are doing great this year!

We prototyped a design just like this on day 2 and it seemed to work well. However, I think you'll find that unless you are planning to build a very low drivetrain you may not be able to get the forks under the ball. A lower roller might be necessary...



12-01-2008 22:00

Woody1458


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If the belt is pushing down hard enough it doesn't look like it will come loose, I like this design nice job on the prototype. What kind of reduction/rpm is the belt running at?
Its a CIM running at a speed reduction of 2:1, we could put a higher ratio on it, but even at this low ration it is able to do everything we ask of it.

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Cool! Looks like you guys are doing great this year!

We prototyped a design just like this on day 2 and it seemed to work well. However, I think you'll find that unless you are planning to build a very low drivetrain you may not be able to get the forks under the ball. A lower roller might be necessary...

Thank you, we are further ahead of schedule this year then last, hopefully if you pick us again we will be more of a help . We have the bottom fork further behind then the top rollers, approximately 10". This allows the ball to come in contact with the rollers before the bottom forks. We haven't designed our drivetrain yet because This is our leading design, so if we select this design our base will be radically different. (probably a foot shorter then limit, and an open front)



14-01-2008 23:51

gizzlyMIKE000


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wow that is so cool my idea was the same and this week i am working on a prototype and thats cool hows yours does it and also i was going to us two on top would that almost work better? with maybe one prong or maybe 2 prongs or just one solid ramp with grip.



14-01-2008 23:53

gizzlyMIKE000


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also were would you get the CIM moters are they in the kit?



14-01-2008 23:55

EricH


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also were would you get the CIM moters are they in the kit?
Yes. Or you can get two in addition to the two in the kit. (total of four on the robot)



14-01-2008 23:55

redbarron


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We were considering this and i was just wondering what kind of distance and speed do you get out of that when you reverse the motors? Are you planning on hurdling?



15-01-2008 01:07

laultima


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We were considering this and i was just wondering what kind of distance and speed do you get out of that when you reverse the motors? Are you planning on hurdling?
we are planning on hurdling with this, ill try to get a good test out of it tomorrow going reverse. this is just a prototype and ive been told the rollers the treads are on dont roll very good, so we wont get very accurate numbers.



15-01-2008 14:22

gizzlyMIKE000


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hey team 1485 are you guys going to give up one of your cim moters to power that hand? and what kinda tred do you to suck in the ball? is that a tank tred?



15-01-2008 14:23

gizzlyMIKE000


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we were planning on hurdling but now we are herding



15-01-2008 14:48

Woody1458


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As Designer and builder of this prototype I will try to answer any questions you guys have.

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wow that is so cool my idea was the same and this week i am working on a prototype and thats cool hows yours does it and also i was going to us two on top would that almost work better? with maybe one prong or maybe 2 prongs or just one solid ramp with grip.
As I said before its a bad angle, There are 2 prongs at top creating three prongs 1 underneath (only 1 to save weight) 2 on top (the belting spreads between them)

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We were considering this and i was just wondering what kind of distance and speed do you get out of that when you reverse the motors? Are you planning on hurdling?
This being just a prototype, It was built to prove the theory not complete the job. The rollers are poorly made And I will probably want to perfect the belt system. But even with these issues, It was able to spit the ball out straight up, but only to have it roll out no flight.

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hey team 1458 are you guys going to give up one of your cim moters to power that hand? and what kinda tred do you to suck in the ball? is that a tank tred?
-fixed

I went OSH and they had this very flexible rubber stuff, I think used for weather stripping or something, was 1' 6" in width, cross section looked like this

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We decided on a CIM because Its small and fast, but people are still arguing over it so its not final.



15-01-2008 17:35

=Martin=Taylor=


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I'd use a globe with a 1:1 ratio driving the roller. This will be plenty fast and will provide ample power. You will need some power to suck in the ball. It will also be lighter than using a CIM; keep the CIMs in the drive train down low.



15-01-2008 23:51

Andy L


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using a CIM is one of our most debated things about this design. I think we are going to stick with using a CIM so we can get a bit more distance out of spitting out the ball.



16-01-2008 22:45

gizzlyMIKE000


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would you guys mind putting up another pic of this bc i love it so much



17-01-2008 00:00

Woody1458


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lol anything for you Cal High. I just painted it so it looks even better now. Ill get a pic tommorow will be up in a new CD thread by 6:00



17-01-2008 00:13

gizzlyMIKE000


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can you guys post another pic of this peice of beauty



17-01-2008 00:15

gizzlyMIKE000


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lol hey i didnt see when you replied say yes ok and thanks guys i love that design and im trying to prototype one just like so please keep in touch



17-01-2008 00:18

Woody1458


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Well you could always drop bye and check it out in person, im not sure if you realized it yet but we are Monte Vista.



17-01-2008 00:21

gizzlyMIKE000


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lol f me no way you guys are mv heck ya i want to see it. when and where.



17-01-2008 00:23

gizzlyMIKE000


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lol woody do you happen to have aim?



17-01-2008 00:37

Woody1458


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