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Team 330 is proud to present our 2008 robot.
We comply with the 80" rule (just barely). See the videos for more details.
Promotional Video
Holding the ball
Discussion
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05-03-2008 11:11
Jherbie53
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At first glance you reminded me of the thunder chickens. At second glance it looks very nice and different, great job.
05-03-2008 12:16
EricH
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Originally Posted by GeeForce
Gotta love PVC arms. See you in Atlanta
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I really like the position indicators on the herding arms.
05-03-2008 12:21
Travis Hoffman
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Anyone thinking 254 2004 with this one?
The lower tusks remind me of the ball herding legs that popped out on that bot.
Looks slick.
05-03-2008 12:23
Ali Ahmed
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True, but I was thinking more along the lines of 330 2005.
Actually, I have a question too. Could you guys hold 2 balls at once?
05-03-2008 12:31
EricH
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Originally Posted by ali_rockon22
True, but I was thinking more along the lines of 330 2005.
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05-03-2008 12:58
GaryVoshol
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Originally Posted by ali_rockon22
Actually, I have a question too. Could you guys hold 2 balls at once?
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05-03-2008 12:59
Karthik
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33% faster than last year? Excuse me while I pick my jaw up off the floor. Last year the Beachbots dominated the field with their extraordinary speed. I remember being in awe of how quickly they moved across the field, now I can only imagine what it will be like this year. Great job om another simple and elegant design!
05-03-2008 13:04
s_forbes
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This looks like it will be another very effective arm-type hurdling robot (the other being the Thunderchickens). It seems that simplicity really is the key here; I predict that single jointed arms will outperform any super-articulated ones.
05-03-2008 13:25
Courtneyteam330
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This is the first time I've seen it in action this year...Nice job guys and good luck! =)
05-03-2008 14:18
ShaneP
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Originally Posted by Tottanka
How are you going to knock of the balls?
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Backwards: Pop them out from underneath.
05-03-2008 14:20
Tottanka
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Originally Posted by ShaneP
Forwards: Poke with arm.
or Backwards: Pop them out from underneath. |
What is your hybrid plan?
BTW, i liked your speed racer
05-03-2008 14:25
ShaneP
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Originally Posted by Tottanka
And how good/fast does he do it?
What is your hybrid plan? BTW, i liked your speed racer |
Pops it off pretty quick, and is fairly consistent. Hybrid: Last I knew, the plan was to run a lap, and knock a ball off - maybe two.
05-03-2008 15:54
BBnum3
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There are a couple of reasons this robot will be really good this year:
1. Beachbot's drivers are always amazing.
2. The fact that the lower arms can corral the ball and the upper arms can pick it up while moving will be incredibly helpful.
05-03-2008 16:14
Syncopation
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Amazing design and execution guys - I've seen what you've done in the past, and you might have even outclassed yourselves. Awesome robot, hope you do well!
One question (and this was the main problem for a number of robots at week 1 regionals - or maybe just St. Louis), but from the video, it looks like when you hit the overpass with the arm and let go of the trackball with the hand, you're in a position to be "clotheslined". Any ideas on avoiding this?
217 (the ever-powerful ThunderChickens) impressed everyone with their "slam dunks": they (from what I saw) could disengage their arm so that the force from hitting the overpass flipped the arm backwards so they could drive under the overpass safely (a dog gear or something like that was my guess - never got the chance to ask them myself). Probably not much help for you, since it doesn't look like you guys can rotate the arm past vertical to the back, but just a thought. Might want to watch out for that.
Anyway, you guys have a great design (I never would have thought of two arms organized like that) and best of luck to you in your regionals and championship!
[I apologize for the novel here, just a thoughtdump more than anything.]
05-03-2008 16:22
ShaneP
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Originally Posted by Syncopation
Amazing design and execution guys - I've seen what you've done in the past, and you might have even outclassed yourselves. Awesome robot, hope you do well!
One question (and this was the main problem for a number of robots at week 1 regionals - or maybe just St. Louis), but from the video, it looks like when you hit the overpass with the arm and let go of the trackball with the hand, you're in a position to be "clotheslined". Any ideas on avoiding this? 217 (the ever-powerful ThunderChickens) impressed everyone with their "slam dunks": they (from what I saw) could disengage their arm so that the force from hitting the overpass flipped the arm backwards so they could drive under the overpass safely (a dog gear or something like that was my guess - never got the chance to ask them myself). Probably not much help for you, since it doesn't look like you guys can rotate the arm past vertical to the back, but just a thought. Might want to watch out for that. Anyway, you guys have a great design (I never would have thought of two arms organized like that) and best of luck to you in your regionals and championship! [I apologize for the novel here, just a thoughtdump more than anything.] |
We've hit the overpass in high gear going as fast as the robot will go, and even though it does close-line, it does not fall over backwards. The wheels still stay on the ground enough to backup the base. If need be, we can hurdle backwards as well.
05-03-2008 16:43
Laaba 80
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The rugby player video is the best. Playing the Rocky video. Everyone needs to see that, its hilarious. The robot definatly won that battle
Joey
05-03-2008 16:56
Syncopation
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Originally Posted by ShaneP
Thanks for the compliments.
We've hit the overpass in high gear going as fast as the robot will go, and even though it does close-line, it does not fall over backwards. The wheels still stay on the ground enough to backup the base. If need be, we can hurdle backwards as well. |
Good luck, and I'm excited to see you guys in Atlanta!
05-03-2008 17:11
chaoticprout
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Another amazing robot from the guys ( and girls) from Hope Chapel. I'm really looking forward to this weekend.
05-03-2008 17:18
Joe Ross
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Originally Posted by Syncopation
Ah, cool. Just a thought. Any worries about being bumped by passing robots adding to the tipping? Chances of falling on your back are probably slim, though. Hah, what am I saying? Your robot can withstand a rugby player kick - more than I can say about myself.
Good luck, and I'm excited to see you guys in Atlanta! |
We still have to qualify for Atlanta (and then fundraise).
05-03-2008 17:59
seanl
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WOW! its sooo.. simple yet so efficient see you in la. whats the max fps you guys can do?
05-03-2008 18:19
SamC
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Originally Posted by seanl
whats the max fps you guys can do?
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There is most of the information on our robot here, http://team330.org/?q=content/2008-robot-unveiled
05-03-2008 19:13
Grant Cox
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Originally Posted by Syncopation
217 (the ever-powerful ThunderChickens) impressed everyone with their "slam dunks": they (from what I saw) could disengage their arm so that the force from hitting the overpass flipped the arm backwards so they could drive under the overpass safely (a dog gear or something like that was my guess - never got the chance to ask them myself). Probably not much help for you, since it doesn't look like you guys can rotate the arm past vertical to the back, but just a thought. Might want to watch out for that.
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Originally Posted by Joe Ross
We can pick ourselves up from any direction we might fall, using either the herder, the arm, or both.
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We had people coming up to us all day, "that was soo cool how you picked yourselves up" etc.
05-03-2008 20:22
mark johnson
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Another awsome bot from THE BEACH BOTS!!!!! From your 2007 Currie Championship partners and IRI partners. Good luck this weekend and the rest of the year. Hope to see you in Atlanta and IRI. Mark
05-03-2008 21:05
Joe Ross
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Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman
Anyone thinking 254 2004 with this one?
The lower tusks remind me of the ball herding legs that popped out on that bot. Looks slick. |
05-03-2008 21:05
Scott Morgan
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Originally Posted by EricH
I think we have a winner--it looks like 330 2005/2007 for the base with 254/60 2004 on the gripper. (BTW, I think the drivebase teaser for this robot was a bit of a bluff. The other teaser is in plain view.)
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They were using 3 prong in 04, although the base prongs are pretty similar to the 04 bot.
And I'm looking forwards to seeing it compete this weekend.
05-03-2008 21:07
Joe Ross
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Originally Posted by GeeForce
Not to hijack the thread, but I just wanted to make a note here. Although we originally had a dog gear clutch designed in the arm gearbox (good guess haha), we found it was easier to just time a simultaneous release the ball + stop the drive momentarily + start pulling back the arms. I'm sure that after practice 330 will adopt a similar strategy.
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Originally Posted by GeeForce
Tip coming from someone who did just that at STL - the crowd will looovvve it
We had people coming up to us all day, "that was soo cool how you picked yourselves up" etc. |
05-03-2008 21:11
=Martin=Taylor=
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How were you able to bend PVC in such nice arcs? We've always had to kink it little by little, and we've always had a horrible time with anything larger than 3/4" dia.
05-03-2008 21:20
SamC
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Originally Posted by Hachiban VIII
How were you able to bend PVC in such nice arcs? We've always had to kink it little by little, and we've always had a horrible time with anything larger than 3/4" dia.
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05-03-2008 21:24
GaryVoshol
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Originally Posted by Joe Ross
We can pick ourselves up from any direction we might fall, using either the herder, the arm, or both.
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Originally Posted by GeeForce
Tip coming from someone who did just that at STL - the crowd will looovvve it
We had people coming up to us all day, "that was soo cool how you picked yourselves up" etc. |
05-03-2008 21:27
Dan Petrovic
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The arm/gripper looks almost exactly like 1038's 2007 arm/gripper
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/27725
1038 probably used the same design for their 2008 robot also...
05-03-2008 21:35
Jeremy Roberts
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Is that a 1.5" bore or 2" bore that you have for the gripper..I assume 2"??
05-03-2008 22:03
EricH
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Originally Posted by Jeremy Roberts
Is that a 1.5" bore or 2" bore that you have for the gripper..I assume 2"??
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05-03-2008 22:26
Mike Harrison
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I really would not want to get squeezed by that robot. I would probably pinch off into 2 distinct pieces.
05-03-2008 22:30
Mike Harrison
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Originally Posted by Syncopation
Amazing design and execution guys - I've seen what you've done in the past, and you might have even outclassed yourselves. Awesome robot, hope you do well!
One question (and this was the main problem for a number of robots at week 1 regionals - or maybe just St. Louis), but from the video, it looks like when you hit the overpass with the arm and let go of the trackball with the hand, you're in a position to be "clotheslined". Any ideas on avoiding this? 217 (the ever-powerful ThunderChickens) impressed everyone with their "slam dunks": they (from what I saw) could disengage their arm so that the force from hitting the overpass flipped the arm backwards so they could drive under the overpass safely (a dog gear or something like that was my guess - never got the chance to ask them myself). Probably not much help for you, since it doesn't look like you guys can rotate the arm past vertical to the back, but just a thought. Might want to watch out for that. Anyway, you guys have a great design (I never would have thought of two arms organized like that) and best of luck to you in your regionals and championship! [I apologize for the novel here, just a thoughtdump more than anything.] |
*high-fives Grant*
06-03-2008 01:24
Joe Ross
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Originally Posted by Jeremy Roberts
Is that a 1.5" bore or 2" bore that you have for the gripper..I assume 2"??
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06-03-2008 01:55
Viper37
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I loled so hard when I saw our robot on there.
See you tomorrow.
06-03-2008 11:39
Syncopation
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Originally Posted by GeeForce
Not to hijack the thread, but I just wanted to make a note here. Although we originally had a dog gear clutch designed in the arm gearbox (good guess haha), we found it was easier to just time a simultaneous release the ball + stop the drive momentarily + start pulling back the arms. I'm sure that after practice 330 will adopt a similar strategy.
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Originally Posted by Mike Harrison
Nice guess on the dog gear, but as Grant said we left that strategy for just plain old timing in the driver's box.
*high-fives Grant* |
Your arm was just so fast, it looked like it was just falling back. :3 Nice design, guys, and some awesomely consistent driving.Sorry, didn't mean to totally divert attention from 330 (who are looking to be amazing). Someone mentioned violating 80" rule when lifting yourself back up... Do you? (I can't see a way to really get around that - but I'm sure you can more than make up the 10 point penalty with that monster of a robot.)
06-03-2008 13:04
EricH
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Originally Posted by Syncopation
Someone mentioned violating 80" rule when lifting yourself back up... Do you? (I can't see a way to really get around that - but I'm sure you can more than make up the 10 point penalty with that monster of a robot.)
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06-03-2008 14:35
Grant Cox
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If they fell side to side they might get away with it. If it's front to back (like ours was) it's definitely a violation though.
But which would you take, a 10 pt penalty or one less hurdle?
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