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On Saturday evening, April 19th, this traveling trophy will be awarded to the fastest robot at the FIRST Championships.
That's right... if you have one of the fastest robots in your division, you may be asked to compete in the "FIRST Finale Asphalt Challenge". The four fastest robots will be invited to compete in a 100 ft. drag race during the FIRST Finale, after the Championships awards are completed. This race will take place on the street in the middle of Centennial Park.
The prize will be possessing this cool trophy for 1 year, and having the ability to put your team's sticker on the helmet.
The trophy consists of a 8" Performance Wheel, 19 gears, a 3/8" steel hex shaft, and a jet black racing helmet. Oh... and the gears and helmet spins.
The trophy will be located at the AndyMark booth in the Supplier's Showcase.
This prize and contest is one of the ways we at AndyMark are saying "thanks" to the FIRST teams for supporting us.
Who wants to GO FAST!?!
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15-04-2008 17:45
Aren_Hill
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You should do the same thing at IRI, i'm bringing a lap bot made for fun muahaha
15-04-2008 17:46
=Martin=Taylor=
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Our robot only goes 10 fps. in high gear... Probably shouldn’t bother 
I'm already envious of whoever wins that trophy. That thing looks about a bonjillion times more awesome than the FIRST trophies 
15-04-2008 17:49
Elgin Clock
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I hate to be the one who brings rain on this (fast) parade, but I have a simple logistics issue.
Will teams who compete in this be able to pack their robots up afterwards if the pits are closing/closed?
Just wondering. I think this is an awesome idea, and just want to be sure by participating in this, that teams are not jeapordizing other important things. (Like shipping their robots home)
But I'm sure you thought of that already right? 
15-04-2008 17:54
Andy Baker
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Originally Posted by Elgin Clock
Will teams who compete in this be able to pack their robots up afterwards if the pits are closing/closed?
Just wondering. I think this is an awesome idea, and just want to be sure by participating in this, that teams are not jeapordizing other important things. (Like shipping their robots home) But I'm sure you thought of that already right? |
Good question. The management at Show Ready Events and Sargent Productions are aware of this challenge. For the 4 teams invited to participate (and if they accept), their robot crates will be transported over to the FIRST Finale so that they can unload their robots to participate and then re-crate the robots once the race is finished. Then, the crates will be taken back to join the other crates to start their journey home.
Who feels the need for speed?
... oh, and there is now a graphic on the performance wheel tread area. You'll have to stop by the AM booth to check this thing out. Did I mention that it spins?
Andy B.
15-04-2008 17:55
Qbranch
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Well, I was reading your description and I was like...
"Ooh, chrom-y... yep, nice trophy, yep... IT SPINS??? 
" then I saw Andy Baker as the poster... yep, figures. Leave it to a man who makes a living out of spinny things to make a trophy out of spinny things. 
Kidding aside, AWESOME trophy, Andy!
Who knows? Maybe you all will deem our robot speedy enough to compete?
Also, are you allowing autonomous modes to run the drag or does there have to be a human operator? I don't think anyone can drive our robot as well as RALFF...
-q
15-04-2008 18:26
Greg Needel
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*orders new sprockets from Andy for atlanta....
15-04-2008 18:34
technoL
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That is one sweet trophy
15-04-2008 18:37
MrForbes
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Beautiful trophy!
I've always wondered why they call us gearheads, now I know....
15-04-2008 18:48
Tottanka
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WOW! any chance for a webcast of it/video capture please =]
anyhow, if i knew about this trophy, i would have designed a speedy robot just for that!
15-04-2008 19:00
Kristian Calhoun
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At 27 ft/s, I'd probably have to place my bet on Team 102, The Gearheads. 
15-04-2008 19:14
The Lucas
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So Andy, how well do your omniwheels handle on asphalt at high speeds? 
I think FIRST Finale Asphalt Challenge could double as "extreme product testing"
15-04-2008 19:39
Jeff Rodriguez
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How will you determine who's the fastest robot?
Also, what will the actual drag surface be? I imagine it's going to be on the road that runs through the park, but will they bring out carpet for it or will it be on the pavement?
15-04-2008 19:53
Andy Baker
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Originally Posted by The Lucas
So Andy, how well do your omniwheels handle on asphalt at high speeds?
I think FIRST Finale Asphalt Challenge could double as "extreme product testing" |
We can make more omni wheels.
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Originally Posted by Jeff Rodriguez
How will you determine who's the fastest robot?
Also, what will the actual drag surface be? I imagine it's going to be on the road that runs through the park, but will they bring out carpet for it or will it be on the pavement? |
I am pretty sure that we are running on the pavement, without carpet. There will be alliance stations out there, power for the OI's, and some Mode Switches to help start things equally.
I can understand the concern for lack of carpet. If this is a problem for the invited teams, they can simply deny the invitation. This is simply a fun thing to do.
Andy B.
15-04-2008 19:55
Akash Rastogi
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I'm deffinitly going with the gearheads ftw on this one. team 102 has a robot our team affectionately named "Splungy," "Speedy," and "Speedy Gonzales."
Gearheads ftw
15-04-2008 20:01
=Martin=Taylor=
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I'll bet on 968/254. I believe their top speed is around 20 fps. and with six motors it doesn't take long to reach that speed 
15-04-2008 20:46
David Hoff
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Precision Guessworks Team 1646 would love to get a shot at that beautiful trophy but either way this race will be awesome and I hope to be present when it happens.
15-04-2008 20:52
Michael Corsetto
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Originally Posted by Kristian Calhoun
At 27 ft/s, I'd probably have to place my bet on Team 102, The Gearheads.
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Sorry, I couldn't help myself.
15-04-2008 20:55
Herodotus
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Originally Posted by Rex114
27 ft/s? They must really "Rush" around the field
Sorry, I couldn't help myself. |
That is a very sweet lookin' trophy right there. We were thinking of making some trophies for our school LAN tournament, and I'm liking the stacked gears. I'll have to keep that in mind.
15-04-2008 21:45
Athleticgirl389
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Originally Posted by Kristian Calhoun
At 27 ft/s, I'd probably have to place my bet on Team 102, The Gearheads.
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I think this award should go to the team it's named after LOL!!! but yes... 27fps is what our lil bot does... geared for 30fps but hey, we can't expect everything to go 100% lol
15-04-2008 22:10
Lil' Lavery
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I have a feeling that this is going to come down to the same thing that wins real drag races, acceleration (and solid driving). I don't care what your bot is geared to run at, if mine can reach top speed faster I'll beat you there.
15-04-2008 22:23
Qbranch
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So, I'll take that as yes, you don't need an operator, you can run autonomous control of your robot?
-q
15-04-2008 22:36
jwfoss
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note to self, build fastest bot, with crazy acceleration for next year...
no seriously though, that is a really cool trophy
15-04-2008 22:39
ChuckDickerson
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Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery
I have a feeling that this is going to come down to the same thing that wins real drag races, acceleration (and solid driving). I don't care what your bot is geared to run at, if mine can reach top speed faster I'll beat you there.
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15-04-2008 22:44
Lil' Lavery
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Originally Posted by DeepWater
Actually what wins drag races is the ability to transfer the power to the track. Smoke your tires and your race is over. That is why lane choice is critical. I have a feeling that moving these bots from carpet to asphalt/concrete will create some surprising results. I think this might be part of Andy’s challenge.
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Perhaps I should have worded that better, I didn't mean the radial acceleration of the wheels, I meant the linear acceleration of the robot/car as a whole.
15-04-2008 23:04
Andy Baker
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Originally Posted by Qbranch
So, I'll take that as yes, you don't need an operator, you can run autonomous control of your robot?
-q |
hmmmm....
I suppose it is up to you.
Andy
15-04-2008 23:10
Andy Baker
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Originally Posted by jwfoss
no seriously though, that is a really cool trophy
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Thanks... it is fun to design really cool trophies.
The helmet idea was Steve Krawic's.
Andy B.
15-04-2008 23:31
colin340
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really cool idea
to bad our old driver graduation he was a dragracer!
15-04-2008 23:45
ChuckDickerson
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Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery
I was factoring that into acceleration, as you can't accelerate very well without traction in a wheeled vehicle.
Perhaps I should have worded that better, I didn't mean the radial acceleration of the wheels, I meant the linear acceleration of the robot/car as a whole. |
16-04-2008 00:04
Lil' Lavery
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Originally Posted by DeepWater
Sorry Sean, maybe I should have worded my post better as well. I meant to imply that robots that do well on carpet might not do quite as well on asphalt/concrete.
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Anyone's bot capable of burning out on the starting line?
16-04-2008 00:48
zachjo
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I wanna go fast. NASCAR fast.
16-04-2008 02:24
AdamHeard
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Will these drag races be filmed?
16-04-2008 08:12
AndyH
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Cool trophy and great idea. Sadly team 1098 did not quite make the championship. We tried to have a speed grudge match at the St Louis regional but couldn't get it together. I am glad you got this orginized.
Our bot has seen plenty of asphalt during testing. In fact the school parking lot was covered with salt from a early February ice storm, the first time we did high speed runs outside (we has to replace the drive chains because of all the salt) and it did chew up the tires pretty fast.
Have fun, wish we could attend!!!
We hope to attend IRI and will race anyone there.
Andy
16-04-2008 11:48
Woody1458
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Awsome trophy! Just wondering, do all the gears and hat spin as one? or indevidual?
16-04-2008 12:08
Andy Baker
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Originally Posted by Woody1458
Awsome trophy! Just wondering, do all the gears and hat spin as one? or indevidual?
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As for filming... please bring you cameras. I don't know what to expect with regard to that.
The Gear Head is now somewhere in Kentucky... on its way to Atlanta.
Andy
16-04-2008 12:59
cwood
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1629 "advertised" top speed is 29 ft/s but i haven't actualy seen it move at that speed during a match. Mosty due to lack of space but we will see at Champs
19-04-2008 21:51
pathew100
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So, who won the drag race?
19-04-2008 22:26
AndyH
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We need to know!!! WHO WON?
19-04-2008 22:38
zachjo
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who won? just from the few matches I saw RUSH was pretty fast.
19-04-2008 22:42
Scott Carpman
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Better question: did it happen?
19-04-2008 22:48
Kyle Love
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More then likely it did. 1646 was asked to attend but we did not attend the party so we were unable to attend.
19-04-2008 22:59
Matt C
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Congrats to team 102 on winning the "Gear Head" trophy.
Course completed in 4.43 seconds.
19-04-2008 23:41
Freddy Schurr
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Video?
19-04-2008 23:47
joshsmithers
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Originally Posted by Matt C
Congrats to team 102 on winning the "Gear Head" trophy.
Course completed in 4.43 seconds. |
There were many people recording the races, so I'm sure someone will share some video eventually.
20-04-2008 01:49
EricH
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Originally Posted by joshsmithers
More importantly, Dean Kamen won the "fan favorite" award, which was given to the crowds' favorite robot. If i remember correctly, Dean's time was 11.12 seconds.
There were many people recording the races, so I'm sure someone will share some video eventually. |
20-04-2008 08:17
IndySam
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Originally Posted by EricH
Dean was racing? I detect a Segway in the mix...
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20-04-2008 11:12
Qbranch
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1024 was also asked to be there, but also had to decline due to our flight's departure time.
Pretty Pleeeease Andy can you consider doing it at IRI? 
-q
20-04-2008 14:17
Travis Hoffman
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Originally Posted by Qbranch
1024 was also asked to be there, but also had to decline due to our flight's departure time.
Pretty Pleeeease Andy can you consider doing it at IRI? -q |
Do the math:
IRI egos (they reportedly come to play there) + drag racing =
20-04-2008 17:02
its da PAT!!!
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its would be cool but 102 gets to keep it for the year until next time at champ.
20-04-2008 18:41
MasterChief 573
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I'm quite suprised that I hadn't heard about this, at 19ft/s I would think that our robot would have been invited. What was the speed of the winner?
20-04-2008 19:55
Freddy Schurr
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I can not believe a video is not up yet! Especially with Dean running! WHAT!
20-04-2008 19:56
Lil' Lavery
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Originally Posted by MasterChief 573
I'm quite suprised that I hadn't heard about this, at 19ft/s I would think that our robot would have been invited. What was the speed of the winner?
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21-04-2008 02:25
KarenH
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Is this the start of the race? Does wearing boots make Dean into a robot?
21-04-2008 09:48
Athleticgirl389
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Originally Posted by Freddy Schurr
I can not believe a video is not up yet! Especially with Dean running! WHAT!
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Ask and you shall receive
21-04-2008 09:52
Tottanka
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that is so cool!
Dean ate your dust, eh ?
21-04-2008 10:33
FishNJ
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Here's another video from the end of the strip...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo2JxmgNRnQ
GO GEARHEADS!
21-04-2008 13:02
Freddy Schurr
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfV6h_cD4W4 Ask and you shall receive |
21-04-2008 14:04
Jared W
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Originally Posted by Matt C
Congrats to team 102 on winning the "Gear Head" trophy.
Course completed in 4.43 seconds. |
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Originally Posted by joshsmithers
More importantly, Dean Kamen won the "fan favorite" award, which was given to the crowds' favorite robot. If i remember correctly, Dean's time was 11.12 seconds.
There were many people recording the races, so I'm sure someone will share some video eventually. |
Team 102- 4.43 seconds.
Dean- 11.12 seconds.
Then why in the video do they look about 1 second apart?
21-04-2008 16:21
galewind
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seems like dean is starting to have a bit more fun now. Between joking around in speeches, being on Colbert numerous times, and this, it's showing more of a fun side of him.
21-04-2008 16:53
Matt C
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Originally Posted by Jared W
I'm a little confused.
Team 102- 4.43 seconds. Dean- 11.12 seconds. Then why in the video do they look about 1 second apart? |
The race against 102 was his second run.
21-04-2008 17:10
Ryan Dognaux
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Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman
I second that! We were invited but logistics got in the way.
Do the math: IRI egos (they reportedly come to play there) + drag racing = |
This would be a fun thing to do at IRI after matches on Friday or something.
23-04-2008 20:32
zachjo
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that robot is blazing fast. will it be at IRI or anyother off season events?
24-04-2008 18:38
kborer22
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Originally Posted by Freddy Schurr
I can not believe a video is not up yet! Especially with Dean running! WHAT!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCNexMcUeFg
24-04-2008 18:51
Freddy Schurr
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Where is 2016? That robot is fast!
24-04-2008 20:54
Athleticgirl389
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Originally Posted by zachjo
that robot is blazing fast. will it be at IRI or anyother off season events?
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There are plans to attend a few others such as Brunswick Eruption, Ramp Riot, August Adventure
Sadly IRI is a bit too far for the team to travel... however if I had the robot and about 5 days of nothing to do, you could bet that robot would be out there
hehe
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