25-08-2008 08:25

Kyle Love

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This would make an awesome site to hold the Championship event.

25-08-2008 08:28

sgreco

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It would be awesome.

I can't wait.

25-08-2008 08:44

Taylor

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Would it be at the Lucas Oil Stadium or the "new" Convention Center [read: the RCA Dome (read: the Hoosier Dome)]?
Either way, I'm going.
Now if only we can get Dean Kamen and the FIRST Headquarters to move to Noblesville, I'll go to Kickoff too.

25-08-2008 16:00

Carlee10

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Stupid stadium........I must admit, having championships there would make up for the wasted money......

25-08-2008 16:04

Schnabel

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It would be in Lucas Oil. The RCA Dome (that's what I still call it) is going to be tore down to expand the all ready existing convention center. I am probably different though because i would absolutely hate for the championships to be in Indy. That just takes one less chance to get out of state for me!!!

EDIT : Want a piece of what was the RCA Dome?

25-08-2008 16:22

IKE

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I leave Inidiana for 7 years and you guys tear down the RCA dome? What is the world coming to. Actually I am not a NFL fan so it is probably more like my head was in a vacuum. Not to mention SE Michigan seems to block Purdue and Colts football.
So how many years have I been in the dark (i.e. when did the Lucas Oil Stadium open)?

25-08-2008 16:29

jtdowney

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It opened on August 14th, 2008. So you haven't been in the dark for that long.

25-08-2008 16:29

IndySam

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Hoosier Dome is still there (I refuse to call it the RCA dome because of how Thompson screwed Indiana) Demolition is just starting. It will be removed for the expansion of the convention center.

LOS opened this weekend, this was the first Colts game there.

25-08-2008 16:43

IKE

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I hated calling it the RCA dome also. My conference once rented the Hoosier dome for us to play football on every team in the coference was playing another team in the conference. It was awesome.

25-08-2008 18:46

ttldomination

Re: pic: Lucas Oils Stadium

How long are we at the GA Dome for?

26-08-2008 00:07

Qbranch

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I feel so out of the loop of Indy now that I'm living in Champaign for college... it's so wierd to hear about news from my hometown at length!

That would be so totally awesome for FIRST to have championships there in indy... it's really set up well for it... I'd even venture to say better than Atlanta.

Examples... there's no big hill between your hotel and the championship to roll toolboxes up and back down, everything is even closer together, there's plenty of lodging and food available, even a few local downtown machine shops if the need arises. Also, your favorite industrial supply companies (Enco, McMaster, etc.) have next-day service to Indianapolis even when shipping UPS Ground. Also, for the FIRST Finale, white river state park should be big enough to house it. For entertainment theres a great state museum and one of the largest children's museums around (yes, it's a children's museum, but... who isn't young at heart.) as well as an Imax theater.

-q

p.s. Have they used the convertible roof yet?

26-08-2008 00:23

Protronie

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Wow nice joint, how many does it hold?

Let me know when some worth seeing shows there... like Metallica

So they tearing down the RCA Dome... bummer.
We've something similar going on here in Greensboro.
They built a new ballpark downtown and now the city wants to tear down the old ball park which is a landmark, and the oldest double A ball park in the USA.

-p

26-08-2008 07:40

Roger

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2011? That should give me enough time to learn how to spell Indianapolis...

maps.live.com really should update their photos. The aerial view barely has any seating, and the "Bird's Eye" view only has a couple of walls for the new stadium. I was wondering how you got an interior photo of an incomplete building?

Important question: How close would the pits be?

Okay - I'm sold! And Amtrak is right there - too bad it takes a day-and-a-half from Boston.

26-08-2008 10:01

JaneYoung

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Why is everything so blue?

26-08-2008 10:19

IndySam

Re: pic: Lucas Oils Stadium

Depends on how FIRST grows and how they would like things laid out. The floor of LOS is much bigger than the Georgia Dome and there is 43,000 square feet of extra hall space in LOS. The entire FRC event could be held in LOS.
It also depends on how the fields would be laid out and how many seats would be retracted.

You can see in this pick how the convention center expansion will be connected to LOS by an underground tunnel.

26-08-2008 19:09

David Kelly

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Itʻs just so Cyber Blue

26-08-2008 20:11

=Martin=Taylor=

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This will be very convenient for Midwest teams.














...Which is why I propose we hold the championship in Las Vegas

26-08-2008 22:38

Laaba 80

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If they would hold the FRC championships there good luck actually being able to stay there. The LOS was supposed to host the Drum Corps International World Championships there on August 9th. They moved it to Indiana Memorial Stadium in Bloomington. I was not happy. I really wanted to go see LOS.
Joey

26-08-2008 22:42

Kyle Love

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Getting the place ready for the Colts took priority.

26-08-2008 23:35

Laaba 80

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Why would they schedule it there though?

26-08-2008 23:45

IndySam

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They thought it would be finished. The mechanical contractor went bankrupt in the middle of the build and really screwed up the schedule. They also had flooding problems much of which was caused by poor design of said contractor.

Trust me they didn't want to move it.

27-08-2008 22:52

DonRotolo

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As the light refracts through the water, it absorbs red and makes everything look blue. Yes! Water Game for 2011!

28-08-2008 07:39

Taylor

Re: pic: Lucas Oils Stadium

I think the LOS already had their water game in 2008, and I can't imagine they'd want to do another.

28-08-2008 10:43

Macdaddy549

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My vote is to move back to Epcot. I was a spectator in 2001 and thought it was great.

28-08-2008 20:14

The Lucas

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I'm curious having not been to Indy (other than IRI), how busy is South St? I would imagine it is fairly busy with the Amtrak station nearby. Since I think only the robots, comp teams and volunteers would be allowed in the tunnel, how long do you think it will take to walk the street/parking lot back and forth from the convention center and LOS? I am not saying it is like Houston but that is my concern.

The nice green in between GWCC and Georgia Dome is a major positive for Atlanta. Great place to meet and unwind at lunch. Indy certainly has its positives for Champs and it will be interesting to see how this develops in a few years.

28-08-2008 22:00

its da PAT!!!

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The walk would be a lot shorter compared to the walk in ATL.
We really wouldn't have to use the convention center we could put it ALL in LOS!

29-08-2008 03:15

Cory

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I've got nothing against Indy (I've actually quite enjoyed both my trips to Indiana), but by my count LOS has nowhere near the available floor space that we used in the GWCC. Prior to 08 we had ~212,000 sq ft in Hall C at the GWCC, plus the area outside of the main hall for vendors, plus additional rooms for things like the conference topics, etc, plus the floor of the dome.

LOS has ~180,000 sq ft plus the dome floor.

29-08-2008 08:19

IndySam

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No LOS has 180,000 sq ft + meeting rooms, almost twice the size of the Georgia Dome. The convention center has over 600,000 more with additional ball rooms and meeting rooms.

29-08-2008 10:13

GeorgeTheEng

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but remember that Hall C was specifically for all programs (not counting this year) FRC is really about half (more or less). So it would be possible to put it in LOS, but you'd probably need alternate locations for FLL and/or FTC pits (which has it's own pluses and minuses). I would think colleges and vendors could be setup around the level with the consession stands. Plenty of traffic walking by there.

I think LOS is a possibility. But for it to happen, FIRST would have to start planning at least two years prior to leaving Atlanta. I have it on good authority that they never want to try moving Championship in one year (Disney to Houston) again. Also consider there would be a period of building relationships in Indy. Right now FIRST has very good relationships in Atlanta with a number of places, the GWCC, Dome, and the Atlanta Chamber of Commerce. Not saying it can't be done but those relationships are not build overnight.

29-08-2008 15:30

Cory

Re: pic: Lucas Oils Stadium

Right--I know that's the case. I was referring to someone suggesting that the entire event, pits and all could be held in the LOS with nothing in the convention center.

31-08-2008 00:10

Dowjonesbotics

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That looks like a beautiful building. But, (serious question) what would be the need for a change in venue if this was even considered? I loved Atlanta and the GA World Congress Center.

31-08-2008 00:51

Cory

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Cost, and location would be the two primary factors. FIRST is going to want to find the cheapest venue possible, and the venue that the most teams can get to the easiest.

31-08-2008 01:44

Kyle Love

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It's time for a change. Sure, me being from Indiana, I want it to be in IN for a few years, but I think it would be best if it moved around every 3-4 years to give more areas opportunity to hold it.

01-09-2008 01:21

GeorgeTheEng

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That is a good plan once all major cities have their own dedicated FIRST Robotics arenas!

02-09-2008 20:38

Sean Schuff

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I agree. And much closer than Atlanta...at least for us!

02-09-2008 21:45

BiTurboS4

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I wouldn't bet on it moving any time soon. The venue looks nice, but for the foreseeable future, I don't think it'll happen.