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Team 190's new robot

Nuttyman54

By: Nuttyman54
New: 10-20-2008 10:45 PM
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Team 190's new robot

Team 190 built a new robot for the remaining two off-seasons to give our new members some actual driving practice. It made finals at Bash at the Beach along with our partners 121 and 238.

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10-21-2008 10:07 AM

RMS11


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haha, like the top. How fast does it go?



10-21-2008 10:45 AM

Nuttyman54


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top speed is around 14-15fps. Not blisteringly fast, but good enough to get 9-10 laps a match



10-21-2008 10:47 AM

Kyle Love


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Darn blue shells...



10-21-2008 11:01 AM

mtaman02


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Hmm,

It looks alot smaller then 102's Orion... I wonder which of the 2 can do my laps


I'd like to see those 2 go at it for 2:20 .



10-21-2008 12:42 PM

zachjo


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how much does that? weigh? dimensions?



10-21-2008 01:02 PM

Nuttyman54


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how much does that? weigh? dimensions?
Robot Specs:

Bare weight: 25 lbs

Operational weight (With battery and bumpers): 39 lbs

Dimensions (without bumpers): 14" x 22"

Drivetrain: RWD, 2 8" skyway wheels with roughtop, direct drive from toughboxes, 1 CIM per side. Front wheels are 5" custom omnis

Top Speed: 15fps



10-21-2008 05:39 PM

gorrilla


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oh man mario kart brings back some memories


u should have put a yoshi doll on it



10-21-2008 06:39 PM

Athleticgirl389


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Hmm,

It looks alot smaller then 102's Orion... I wonder which of the 2 can do my laps


I'd like to see those 2 go at it for 2:20 .
Orion is 13x16

And I'd love to see those 2 bots go at it... gonna turn Orion into Yoshi haha



10-21-2008 08:46 PM

Dave Morris


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Team 2016 would join in with 11 laps both at Chesapeak and in Atlanta. Came in second behind Orion at Centenial Park too........



10-22-2008 10:24 AM

Kingofl337


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I just purchased an old N64 and Mario Cart 64 just about two weeks earlier. I almost fell over when I saw that at Bash. Considering how well it did, I would say it was true to form.

Oh, and you guys should install 2 more CIMs for River Rage.



10-22-2008 11:14 AM

Joe Ross


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What happens when it hits the #1 seed?



10-22-2008 05:56 PM

Francis-134


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We were thinking about adding two more CIM's, but right now we are basically traction limited as far as acceleration is concerned. Also, the gearing for the Toughbox makes is such that an extra CIM per side will only improve our acceleration slightly, and our top speed even less.

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What happens when it hits the #1 seed?
Since there were no seeds at Bash, we will have to see what happens at River Rage .



10-22-2008 06:03 PM

gorrilla


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Robot Specs:

Bare weight: 25 lbs

Operational weight (With battery and bumpers): 39 lbs

Dimensions (without bumpers): 14" x 22"

Drivetrain: RWD, 2 8" skyway wheels with roughtop, direct drive from toughboxes, 1 CIM per side. Front wheels are 5" custom omnis

Top Speed: 15fps




what do you mean skyway wheel with roughtop did you remove the grey rubber stuff and put tread on it?



10-22-2008 07:35 PM

Francis-134


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what do you mean skyway wheel with roughtop did you remove the grey rubber stuff and put tread on it?
Sort of. We added added a high-traction material to the edge of the wheel. Because there's practically no weight on the rear wheels and that the Skyway wheels have a very low coefficient of friction, we had some huge traction issues. While it was cool to have the robot do donuts and drifts all the time, it made it almost impossible to turn effectively.

To add the tread, we practiced with the robot until there was a flat edge on the top of the wheel (if you are doing this at home, I would do this with a lathe). We then drilled an 1/8 inch pilot hole through the tread and the wheel, then fastened it with a drywall screw into the wheel's rim. If you want to do this, insert screws on alternate sides of the wheel at about 30 degrees apart.



10-22-2008 07:42 PM

gorrilla


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oh so you left the gray stuff on there and screwed the tread to the flat spot ok

how long did it take?


and is the rubber removable if you could just remove it all and get to the plastic rim you could rivet the tread to that right?



10-22-2008 07:56 PM

Francis-134


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oh so you left the gray stuff on there and screwed the tread to the flat spot ok

how long did it take?


and is the rubber removable if you could just remove it all and get to the plastic rim you could rivet the tread to that right?
It took us about 1/2 hour to cut the tread and attach it to the wheels. If you have the tools or time, you certainly could remove the gray tread from the wheel before attaching the traction material. I would chuck it in a lathe and cut it away.



10-22-2008 08:13 PM

EricH


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It took us about 1/2 hour to cut the tread and attach it to the wheels. If you have the tools or time, you certainly could remove the gray tread from the wheel before attaching the traction material. I would chuck it in a lathe and cut it away.
Back when 330 put tread on Skyways, we'd use a belt sander. Put the wheel on an axle (with bearings), then hold it at an angle to the sander's travel until it was the desired thickness/flatness. After a certain point, you'll hit black in spots--stop there, it's the plastic.



10-22-2008 08:19 PM

gorrilla


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oh that works cause we dont have a lathe

so then will the ifi tread work or do i have to get a special tread



10-22-2008 08:21 PM

EricH


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oh that works cause we dont have a lathe

so then will the ifi tread work or do i have to get a special tread
IFI should work. You could also get some conveyor belting from McMaster (roughtop, wedgetop, or nitrile).



10-22-2008 08:23 PM

gorrilla


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awsome now i have something to do for a while and to clean up our wheels bin


and does anyone know why the andymark wheel is flat but the skyway is more rounded



10-22-2008 11:50 PM

Francis-134


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and does anyone know why the andymark wheel is flat but the skyway is more rounded
The AM wheels are designed for maximum traction, while the Skyway wheels are designed for wheelchairs which need the ability to turn easily and provide stability in any sort of tipping situation.

Before anyone says it, I understand that surface area is not factored into traction, but in a real-world, the non-ideal scenario, the deformation of the carpet and wheel, as well as the peaks and valleys of the carpet make surface area very important for traction. Similarly, a wheel with a larger surface area will have a higher coefficient of friction than a wheel with a smaller surface area (assuming they are the same material)



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