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One of Team Overdrive's new toys

Lowfategg

By: Lowfategg
New: 12-03-2008 02:53 PM
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One of Team Overdrive's new toys

Over the last few months we been working on setting up our shop (Area of Inspiration ). One thing I been working on is cleaning and fixing some machine tools we picked up. This one is a 1914 South Bend R Model 10" which was sitting in the garage of one of our mentors for the last 5 years. A few million hours, WD-40, oil, and rags later, a beautiful working lathe. Now all I have to do is make a chip pan for it.

Can't wait for kick off.

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12-03-2008 04:51 PM

IKE


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Wow. What a beauty. I have a 1920's Logan lathe in my garage (same size). Dad has a 12" Southbend with a 6' bed that appears to be the same vintage. I am a huge fan of antique machinery.

My Logan has a built in cover/tensioner over the belt and back gears. It may be a good idea from a safety perspective to cover the belt and back-gears as there is a reason that modern lathes have these gaurds. Oh, used cookie sheets make excellent chip-pans.



12-03-2008 05:09 PM

Lowfategg


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Wow. What a beauty. I have a 1920's Logan lathe in my garage (same size). Dad has a 12" Southbend with a 6' bed that appears to be the same vintage. I am a huge fan of antique machinery.

My Logan has a built in cover/tensioner over the belt and back gears. It may be a good idea from a safety perspective to cover the belt and back-gears as there is a reason that modern lathes have these gaurds. Oh, used cookie sheets make excellent chip-pans.
Lol, if you look an the bottom right corner of picture that thing on floor is a cookie sheet I am going to use.

I am planning on adding some guards before I let my teammates start using it. I rather everyone keeps their figures.



12-03-2008 06:39 PM

IKE


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Awesome. I didn't notice the cookie sheet before, but see it once you pointed it out.

These old lathes can be wonderful machines. I made 6" internal bearing lands for a sports racer a friend and I built. I also cu through 4" of steel for the spool drive. With practise and a good Machinist Handbook (if you don't have one buy one), you will be able to do amazing things.

I did update my Logan with a quick release tool changer. This is a significant time saver as the Southbend/Logan 1/2 moon adjuster must be re-aligned every time you change operations. I found a set somewhere for about $250 that had the head unit and 4 tool holders (1 parting tool, 2 turning/facing, and 1 knurler). I kept the old unit, but have not used it since.
Here is the Harbor Freight link. I don't think I bought the Harbor Freight unit, but something very similar.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=34816



12-03-2008 06:46 PM

Lowfategg


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Awesome. I didn't notice the cookie sheet before, but see it once you pointed it out.

These old lathes can be wonderful machines. I made 6" internal bearing lands for a sports racer a friend and I built. I also cu through 4" of steel for the spool drive. With practise and a good Machinist Handbook (if you don't have one buy one), you will be able to do amazing things.

I did update my Logan with a quick release tool changer. This is a significant time saver as the Southbend/Logan 1/2 moon adjuster must be re-aligned every time you change operations. I found a set somewhere for about $250 that had the head unit and 4 tool holders (1 parting tool, 2 turning/facing, and 1 knurler). I kept the old unit, but have not used it since.
Here is the Harbor Freight link. I don't think I bought the Harbor Freight unit, but something very similar.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=34816
Ya, I was thinking of buying one of the quick change ones but I am going to see how the lamp tool post does first (it does look neater). I already put that 3 jaw chuck on it because the 4 jaw that was on it was a pain to use. As for machinery hand book, yes I am getting one, but for now I have the good old How to Run a Lathe by South Bend (sadly the 1920s copy was trashed so I have a 1950s copy).



12-03-2008 07:13 PM

Akash Rastogi


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Ya, I was thinking of buying one of the quick change ones but I am going to see how the lamp tool post does first (it does look neater). I already put that 3 jaw chuck on it because the 4 jaw that was on it was a pain to use. As for machinery hand book, yes I am getting one, but for now I have the good old How to Run a Lathe by South Bend (sadly the 1920s copy was trashed so I have a 1950s copy).
Tyler, guess who found a mint condition copy of the 1920's one

Well, not me. Ha.

Did find an American Scientific pocket guide from 1920 that uses a South Bend to illustrate the functions and implementations of a lathe though, good enough for me.



12-03-2008 07:54 PM

Smaug


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hahahahaha i just finished reading that book. it is really good and i recommend it to anyone who is learning how to use a lathe.



12-03-2008 08:19 PM

Lowfategg


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Wish they made one for the mill.



12-03-2008 09:40 PM

colin340


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nice i have one but mine a bit older mine ped-metal lathe so you had to pedal it as you worked

i can't see how people could do it it hard to stay balanced as your work



12-03-2008 10:21 PM

vivek16


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nice i have one but mine a bit older mine ped-metal lathe so you had to pedal it as you worked

i can't see how people could do it it hard to stay balanced as your work
That's where the freshmen come in.

All freshmen labor jokes aside, it would be very hard to pedal while you machined.

-Vivek



12-03-2008 10:22 PM

Lowfategg


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nice i have one but mine a bit older mine ped-metal lathe so you had to pedal it as you worked

i can't see how people could do it it hard to stay balanced as your work
Yes I have seen those online, there pretty cool.

This one has 1/4 hp of pure custom built power. It runs very well for how old it is. Just motor hum, gear clicking, and belt nose only thing I could careless for is backlash, but I have seen worse on much newer.



12-04-2008 09:22 AM

Not2B


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Lucky you! That is a fine looking machine.

I see you are from NJ - too bad Henry Ford moved a chunk of Menlo Park and brought it here to Detroit (Dearborn). Because you can see a lot of the early machine tools there. So fun to look at, and not much has changed from the early days of machining.

(OK, CNC is a nice add....)



12-04-2008 02:53 PM

George


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Hi All,
this looks like memory lane to me.....it' the same as the machine I learned on years ago.

Try Enco or CDCO for your quick change tool holder set (about $90)

CDCO has the best deal on economy chucks

Books: web search for "American machine tool" they have a nice Free downloadable packit on both lathe and the mill operation

also the Home shop machinest is a good starter book,

Great project, Have Fun!
Geo.



12-04-2008 04:42 PM

Lowfategg


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Hi All,
this looks like memory lane to me.....it' the same as the machine I learned on years ago.

Try Enco or CDCO for your quick change tool holder set (about $90)

CDCO has the best deal on economy chucks

Books: web search for "American machine tool" they have a nice Free downloadable packit on both lathe and the mill operation

also the Home shop machinest is a good starter book,

Great project, Have Fun!
Geo.
The chuck in the picture is from CDCO and I can see why the quick change would be nice, then again the lantern style is very adjustable.

I will probably pick up one of the machinist hand books off amazon for cheap.

Hey it cut 1/4" 28 tpi just fine for me a minute ago.

Also I be uploading a WAI in front of our Bridgeport which I also rebuilt (theres a story behind that one).



12-05-2008 10:53 AM

George


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Hi low,
When you say "Lantern style" are you talking about a rocker tool post?
(sometimes there is an east coast / left coast gap in terminology)
the advantage to quick change is that you can set up multiple turning or form tools and switch out with out resetting center hight
or when coupled with a DRO using tool offsets and maintain a true position
(Shooting Star makes an affordable DRO, but the best is Newall)

Geo.



12-05-2008 01:24 PM

Lowfategg


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Hi low,
When you say "Lantern style" are you talking about a rocker tool post?
(sometimes there is an east coast / left coast gap in terminology)
the advantage to quick change is that you can set up multiple turning or form tools and switch out with out resetting center hight
or when coupled with a DRO using tool offsets and maintain a true position
(Shooting Star makes an affordable DRO, but the best is Newall)

Geo.
Yes it is also called a rocker tool post but some people call it a lantern tool post be cause it looks like a lantern.

Yes I am thinking about a quick change but there is no way I am putting a DRO on this thing. Its to expensive and I rather not fill it with holes for mounting.



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