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Frame Design

By: Shira
New: 28-01-2009 01:48
Updated: 28-01-2009 01:48
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Frame Design

Team 1836 has hopefully finalized their design. Not much can be changed anyway at this point, as the base chassis has been welded.

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28-01-2009 10:26

Collin Fultz


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Interesting. Ball pick up, ability to human load on the top, and a shooter up front? Great layout drawing.

A question: Why do you have the second set of motors to drive the front wheel? Why not just have the rear wheel chained to the front wheel?

Also, it appears there is a sprocket reduction between the front set of planetaries and the front wheels. Is this done on the back wheels as well?

Good luck!



28-01-2009 10:30

MrForbes


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It looks like it meets the bumper rules

Neat design, thanks for sharing.



28-01-2009 10:37

Josh Goodman


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Nice design! We have a similar frame but for the wide bot!



28-01-2009 11:00

Kyle Love


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Looks oddly familiar



28-01-2009 12:22

=Martin=Taylor=


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Just a suggestion if amateurs are welding it:

Cut out some little 1/8" thick gusset plates and weld them on all the joints. Not only will this be far stronger than butt-welding, but it will also be MUCH easier. Butt-welding 1/16" tube is very difficult, without considerable practice you'll get lots of burn-through (or if your current is set too low) you won't get enough penetration to hold the weld.

We used to have a sponsor weld our frame, and he always had trouble with the butt-welds. After we added gussets... even the kids could do it.



28-01-2009 12:31

Kyle Love


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It looks like they could be using 80/20 with the connecting pieces to put it together, instead of welding. The note only clarified that the drive was welded, not necessarily the entire frame.



28-01-2009 12:32

Greg Needel


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Originally Posted by Hachiban VIII View Post
Just a suggestion if amateurs are welding it:

Cut out some little 1/8" thick gusset plates and weld them on all the joints. Not only will this be far stronger than butt-welding, but it will also be MUCH easier. Butt-welding 1/16" tube is very difficult, without considerable practice you'll get lots of burn-through (or if your current is set too low) you won't get enough penetration to hold the weld.

We used to have a sponsor weld our frame, and he always had trouble with the butt-welds. After we added gussets... even the kids could do it.

or in most cases you could take those same little gussets and pop rivit them in place instead of welding. Having spent 5 hours under the mask last night, this is now our course of action. I mean i thought the point was to make each joint so you could see through it :-)



30-01-2009 21:34

5n1p3r


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WOA, its a cool lookin IDW, looks like something off a manual lol



01-02-2009 14:00

Shira


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Originally Posted by Hachiban VIII View Post
Just a suggestion if amateurs are welding it:

Cut out some little 1/8" thick gusset plates and weld them on all the joints. Not only will this be far stronger than butt-welding, but it will also be MUCH easier. Butt-welding 1/16" tube is very difficult, without considerable practice you'll get lots of burn-through (or if your current is set too low) you won't get enough penetration to hold the weld.

We used to have a sponsor weld our frame, and he always had trouble with the butt-welds. After we added gussets... even the kids could do it.
We got a really great professional welder to help us out. He agreed to do it for free as a sponsor! He's great, and he also works at a facility with pretty much every possible machine imaginable. (http://www.zmanufacturinginc.com/)



01-02-2009 14:06

Shira


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Originally Posted by Collin Fultz View Post
Interesting. Ball pick up, ability to human load on the top, and a shooter up front? Great layout drawing.

A question: Why do you have the second set of motors to drive the front wheel? Why not just have the rear wheel chained to the front wheel?

Also, it appears there is a sprocket reduction between the front set of planetaries and the front wheels. Is this done on the back wheels as well?

Good luck!
1. Better control.
2. We have a 1:1 reduction between the chain and the front drive wheels. The back wheels are direct drive.



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