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1213 GROVES modified tough box

By: groves
New: 06-02-2009 14:27
Updated: 06-02-2009 14:27
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1213  GROVES modified tough box

This is Groves swerve steering drive platform this year it's built out of tough box gears. This was designed by Jack Jones.

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07-02-2009 03:27

GarrettF2395


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I may be mistaken, but it looks like you are using a 2 wheel drive on this robot?
Do you have something balancing it? Or do you have an extra set of wheels hidden in there somewhere?



07-02-2009 19:49

Bertman


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Please check the Q&A. It looks to me as if some of your chassis parts may be from last years KOP and may cause some trepidation at technical inspection. I hope I am wrong but better to know sooner than later. Good Luck.



08-02-2009 21:02

groves


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I may be mistaken, but it looks like you are using a 2 wheel drive on this robot?
Do you have something balancing it? Or do you have an extra set of wheels hidden in there somewhere?
Good eye! I was wondering if anyone would notice. Right now we're testing, but our current configuration is not unlike a segway. The drive platforms are three inches behind our center of gravity. The platforms "crab steer". We still have much testing to work out the exact details.



08-02-2009 22:05

AV_guy007


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Please check the Q&A. It looks to me as if some of your chassis parts may be from last years KOP and may cause some trepidation at technical inspection. I hope I am wrong but better to know sooner than later. Good Luck.
If you are talking about the IFI Kitbot parts they should be fine. The IFI Kitbot is still sold by IFI therefore can be counted as COTS components.

http://www.ifirobotics.com/kitbot.shtml

If there's something else I am missing it may be a different story entirely, but I don't see anything.



08-02-2009 22:11

Billfred


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If you are talking about the IFI Kitbot parts they should be fine. The IFI Kitbot is still sold by IFI therefore can be counted as COTS components.

http://www.ifirobotics.com/kitbot.shtml

If there's something else I am missing it may be a different story entirely, but I don't see anything.
These Q&As will be relevant:

http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread...ghlight=kitbot
http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread...ghlight=kitbot



08-02-2009 22:12

EricH


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If you are talking about the IFI Kitbot parts they should be fine. The IFI Kitbot is still sold by IFI therefore can be counted as COTS components.

http://www.ifirobotics.com/kitbot.shtml

If there's something else I am missing it may be a different story entirely, but I don't see anything.
You don't want to know what you're missing. See http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=11519, http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=11564, and http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=11616, and you'll understand.



09-02-2009 00:15

groves


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Please check the Q&A. It looks to me as if some of your chassis parts may be from last years KOP and may cause some trepidation at technical inspection. I hope I am wrong but better to know sooner than later. Good Luck.
We are indeed in compliance with the rules. The chassis is a consumer off the shelf item, it is not from a previous years KOP.



09-02-2009 00:31

EricH


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We are indeed in compliance with the rules. The chassis is a consumer off the shelf item, it is not from a previous years KOP.
As in, purchased? Good. (It just looks an awful lot like the IFI Kitbot, or at least the upper part does.)



09-02-2009 08:44

groves


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As in, purchased? Good. (It just looks an awful lot like the IFI Kitbot, or at least the upper part does.)
Yes, it is an IFI kitbot chassis which is a COTS (consumer off the shelf) item through IFI. Any team can purchase one from here and be within the rules.



09-02-2009 10:20

EricH


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Yes, it is an IFI kitbot chassis which is a COTS (consumer off the shelf) item through IFI. Any team can purchase one from here and be within the rules.
Yes, but did you purchase it, or did you use one from an old KOP? See the links I posted above, especially the last one.

It's a fine point, and I can't say that I necessarily agree with the GDC, but we do have to live with it.



09-02-2009 10:28

groves


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We are indeed in compliance with the rules. The chassis is a consumer off the shelf item, it is not from a previous years KOP.
Yes, purchased COTS item. This is not from previous KOP. do you need to see the receipt? We are completely legal in regards to this kitbot chassis.



09-02-2009 10:30

EricH


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Yes, purchased COTS item not from previous KOP. do you need to see the receipt? We are completely legal in regards to this kitbot chassis.
I don't need to see it. However, the inspectors may choose to ask for it, so keep it handy. (I'm not sure what the inspection protocol is in regards to this.)

I'm just checking.



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