12-02-2009 22:46

Rich Kressly

Re: pic: 217 entry?

Hey Raul, I don't know what you're finding so hard. 217, 148, 1114, and 254 pics are just as easy to find as 111 pics ... oh, wait ... never mind

12-02-2009 22:50

FatBabyJezus

Re: pic: 217 entry?

OH SNAP!!! our robot doesnt have a chance now!!!111!!!

>< XD

12-02-2009 22:52

XaulZan11

Re: pic: 217 entry?

I HATE to be this person, but um...bumpers?

12-02-2009 22:55

EricH

Re: pic: 217 entry?

Never mind the bumpers...

Sizing box? Weight limit? Only powered by the battery, pneumatics, springs, and/or stored energy? Designed to play Lunacy?

12-02-2009 23:35

Paul Copioli

Re: pic: 217 entry?

Please note that there is no Team 217 Teaser #4 and don't hold your breath waiting for one. We will show a picture of our robot (full disclosure) after it is wired and looks all pretty.

I can tell you this: our robot has more chrome than the one Raul has pictured in this thread. I can also tell you that we are using 8 motors, 6 encoders, the camera and over 1,000 rivets ....

13-02-2009 01:14

R.C.

Re: pic: 217 entry?

I know rivets are awesome, but a thousand. Can't wait to see your bot.

13-02-2009 01:32

MrForbes

Re: pic: 217 entry?

We used over a thousand rivets last year...but I think only a couple hundred were on the robot at one time

Can't wait to see the finished product, Paul!

13-02-2009 01:51

waialua359

Re: pic: 217 entry?

I swear we used over 1000 rivets taking things on and off, on and off, on and off, etc.
I bought out 3 hardware stores for $200.00.

13-02-2009 02:00

=Martin=Taylor=

Re: pic: 217 entry?

I hope you have one of these.

Probably have about 100 rivets on our bot

But I wish we had more. That tool is far too much fun!

13-02-2009 09:02

Travis Hoffman

Re: pic: 217 entry?

If we're talking random vehicles with "217" on them, I prefer the 217 car pulling the camper trailer in that video of a race in England posted in a CD thread I can't seem to find. Hilarious stuff.

I imagine the attachment in this post would be a good start in verifying Paul's rivet claims.

13-02-2009 09:06

Josh Goodman

Re: pic: 217 entry?

Knowing 217, it's probably a transformer....don't be alarmed.

13-02-2009 10:28

Dave Flowerday

Re: pic: 217 entry?

Only 6?

13-02-2009 10:34

Paul Copioli

Re: pic: 217 entry?

We like to take it easy on our software guys.

13-02-2009 10:38

MrForbes

Re: pic: 217 entry?

We have 4 encoders and the software guys have gotten one to work

13-02-2009 10:49

TheOtherGuy

Re: pic: 217 entry?

Huh? We have 3 working, and the last one is a hardware issue

Can't wait to see it, 217!

13-02-2009 11:05

Dave Scheck

Re: pic: 217 entry?

Can I join you guys?

13-02-2009 15:24

MrForbes

Re: pic: 217 entry?

Oh...I meant being used by the program!

We'll get them all doing something by Monday....

13-02-2009 17:15

GaryVoshol

Re: pic: 217 entry?

At that rate, get 16 encoders and then the 4 of them you need will be working.

15-02-2009 23:53

Peter Matteson

Re: pic: 217 entry?

Just curious, do you just use POP rivets or do you ever use solid rivets?

16-02-2009 10:56

Paul Copioli

Re: pic: 217 entry?

We just use POP rivets. They are cheap, easy to use and have never failed us. We never really considered any other kind because they work for us. To take it one step further, we only use 5/32" aluminum rivets. Their strength and ease of installation / removal are perfect for a FIRST robot.

16-02-2009 11:20

Raul

Re: pic: 217 entry?

Hmmm, we have been using 1/8" aluminum pop rivets since 1996 on our robots and they work out fine. We just use steel one when we need extra holding strength.

The aluminum rivets make a good mechanical fuse when you want a built-in failure point. When things are likely to break, it is good to design for failure in the right locations such that minimal functionality is lost in the middle of a match and repair is quick and easy.

16-02-2009 11:29

Paul Copioli

Re: pic: 217 entry?

We use 5/32" due to the fact that our original sheet metal manufacturer didn't want to laser such a small hole (they only had a laser). We compromised on 5/32" (they wanted 3/16").

16-02-2009 11:41

Andy Baker

Re: pic: 217 entry?

Hmmm... Maybe AndyMark should sell rivets in bulk next year.



AB

16-02-2009 11:49

IKE

Re: pic: 217 entry?

Hmmm. Not sure how 45 has been using those. I just unpacked a crate of extra material set aside from last season when working with a rookie team and found a Team 45 pop-rivet gun. That somehow made it into our stuff at Nationals or IRI last year. (feel free to use loaning out your pop-rivet gun to team 3119 in your chairman's submission).
By the way your team didn't happen to find an "extra" set of "Behind the Design" books at nationals did they?

P.S. PM me an address and I will get a Pop-riveter in the mail.

16-02-2009 11:58

AdamHeard

Re: pic: 217 entry?

Anodized in many different colors of course?