19-02-2009 01:41

Alex698

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and no safety glasses

19-02-2009 01:44

EricH

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...for the extremely rare DOUBLE FAIL.

Fail #1: No safety glasses when working with tools.
Fail #2: While doing Fail #1, put the drill bit in backwards.

19-02-2009 02:19

Akash Rastogi

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I see we can expect a sick shooter from G-House. Any pics or vids of the final robot? Hope its powdercoated yellow again! See you guys at Trenton next weekend.

19-02-2009 09:41

geekofband007

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How do you put a drill bit in backwards?!?!?!
That seems pretty crazy to me, maybe its because i'm a machinest.

19-02-2009 09:49

Taylor

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Was that shooter designed by a pirate? I see he signed it.

19-02-2009 09:55

Mr. Ivey

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I hope he knows that you can break certain bits by putting them in backwards. Mainly smaller wood bits, but it can happen. You get the same thing when you put a small bit in the chuck pretty far. It kind of shatters.

19-02-2009 10:26

NorviewsVeteran

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This guy Rick kept putting jigsaw blades in backwards- one time he actually tied to cut with it before anyone caught it.

19-02-2009 10:38

Wetzel

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He is also using the power to tighten the chuck which is not the best of ideas...

19-02-2009 10:54

IKE

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Could someone make an emotiocon of the frown face with its eye poked out. maybe an X for one eye.... Seems like this could get used a lot of this forum.

19-02-2009 11:15

Rex Woodu

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There are several people in my group who don't always where safety glasses.
I am trying to change that.

19-02-2009 11:24

Ryan Dognaux

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x_o

19-02-2009 12:38

dipmeinaluminum

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yeah, I'm loading a few now, also if you go to popular mechanics website, they did a story on us
http://www.popularmechanics.com/scie...s/4304081.html

to address the safety glasses, they are on his head, its a hint of yellow cause we own DeWalt glasses, but you are right, glasses don't work when your wearing them on your head and sorry we don't powder coat, its a simple built it, we like it, take it apart prime and paint it with Krylon.(Sun Burst Yellow) and no NJ regional for us : ( we cant afford more that one, we will be in NY Javits Center WAHOOOO!!!!

19-02-2009 12:44

dipmeinaluminum

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the shooter was designed by us pirates and the "R" stands for Right side, i cant afford to have anymore mistakes with holes being 1/16 and 1/8th off again. the whole season!!! material cut wrong and holes off center! as soon as these kids get girlfriends they forget to measure twice cut once!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

19-02-2009 13:24

Uberbots

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use a bigger bolt?
and sometimes its possible to measure twice and cut twice (-;

19-02-2009 13:45

Caio

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Bigger hole and a washer.

No one will know.

19-02-2009 13:57

EricH

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If this weren't a cordless drill, I'd agree. However, the modern cordless drills can be hand tightened, but no farther, due to inexplicably not having keyed chucks. Hand tight usually isn't good enough when drilling. Modern hand drill chucks are meant to be tightened with a little power, carefully applied.

Of course, they're also meant to be tightened on the shank, not the flutes. Doing it this way dramatically increases the danger.

19-02-2009 13:59

A Bear

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Some1 on our Team dropped a drill and cracked it...

19-02-2009 20:56

dragonrulr288

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I am allowed to yell at everyone cutting drilling ect. without saftey glasses on. I have been told it is one of my jobs, along with memorizing 90% of the rules and working on building the robot

19-02-2009 21:05

Pokechop

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lol i could definetly < -----spelled wrong) see that going sown here some time .... i could also imagine the dialogue... " guys, the drill isnt drilling, im not sure whats happening here" lol thatd be awesome

19-02-2009 21:08

DonRotolo

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Maybe the poor kid is just mechanically dyslexic? Dysmechanic maybe?

19-02-2009 21:11

MrForbes

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Maybe he knows the only safe way to drill without glasses, is to put the sharp end of the bit in the chuck?

(always the optimist)

19-02-2009 21:37

Woodworker88

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If they were meant to be worn that way, they would have called them forehead protectors.

20-02-2009 05:16

Wetzel

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Safety is everyone's job.

20-02-2009 12:54

Joe Ross

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Just because it's common doesn't mean it's right or safe. From the Dewalt DC940 users manual (which is a modern cordless drill):

20-02-2009 13:26

p00rleno

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On rare occation, it's also possible to measure 5 times and cut three times anyway.

20-02-2009 13:29

Collin Fultz

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I have often found it easiest to measure once and cut myself.

20-02-2009 14:08

XXShadowXX

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my question still is just how!!!

one side is sharp, one side is round... wash rinse repeat

21-02-2009 18:17

shawn1231

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Sorry I've rethought this reply.

21-02-2009 18:51

Ryan Dognaux

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For one, I thought the majority of responses have been pretty lighthearted. I've seen worse in a thread on these forums.

For two, whenever I see my students not wearing safety glasses while using tools, I tell them to put them on. Practice makes perfect; you get the students wearing safety glasses enough and they'll start doing it on their own by instinct. Forgetting to wear them just one time could mean you'll end up missing an eye. I don't know about you, but I don't enjoy metal / lexan shavings in my eyes - it hurts.

If just one person remembers to put on their safety glasses from this thread, then I'd say someone has learned something. Safety should be preached over and over again, it's not something to take lightly and I think your post pretty much has proven to me that I wouldn't want my students working around your unguarded machinery. Common sense is no substitute for good practice.

21-02-2009 18:59

Booksy

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Its not how often you measure, but how well you measure.

Fixing bad measurements is an important skill, and one I think FIRST (or pretty much building anything complex like a robot) does very well.

On a side note, I think he will have a hard time keeping the drill on the mark with that drill bit in backwards. I can pictures the drill traveling all over the place in my head, makes for a funny little thought too.

On another side note: how does one make that mistake more than a couple times? Even once is a stretch, but you'd think you'd learn.

21-02-2009 19:06

wendymom

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Ouch! Isn't that painful?

21-02-2009 19:14

shawn1231

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My apologies Ryan my main beef was with the absurdity of attacking the way he was tightening the chuck. I'm guilty of hi-jacking the thread to spout about 6 weeks or more of pent up frustration with some of these ridiculous posts, not just about safety and I kind of lost it. I also know that there have been far more absurd posts. I know that common sense is no substitute and I agree that practice makes perfect. I've had to be better about wearing my safety glasses and I assure you my house is safe (all my family still has their fingers). What I failed to acknowledge was how dramatically the "art" of safety shifts from when I'm in my basement, alone, to when you're in a room with 20 or more high school kids of all different skill levels using multiple pieces of equipment. As proof of how much robotics has influence me, I used one of our table saws to make a shelf earlier this week and I felt, almost naked, without any safety glasses. In fact I intend to buy some to keep around the basement now that the season is over. I apologize for sounding rather ignorant and crass. I know better.

21-02-2009 19:47

Ryan Dognaux

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No apology necessary, I read some of your post out of context by accident it seems anyway. We all have a lot of pent up excitement and frustration from build season, I think a look at the current battery GDC ruling thread shows that plain as day. Good luck at your upcoming regional competitions, and always remember which way to insert your drill bits into your chucks