19-02-2009 23:26

silicon_ghoti

Re: pic: How high can u jump?

Let me guess... a sudden change in the direction of a HUGE flywheel. Or am I mistaking the bulge in the center of the robot for something else?

19-02-2009 23:43

ehochstein

Re: pic: How high can u jump?

A jumping robot? Won't do you much good with a trailer -- but still awesome!!!

Im guessing you are not using this for the competition by the way

20-02-2009 10:26

powerkane

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its the first lowrider robot it had hydrolics

20-02-2009 12:07

Wylie99998

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Sachem haha love ur bot iv seen the vids the gyro is workin well 4 ya i hope u guys win the inovation award

20-02-2009 12:17

JVN

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I'm curious to see more, specifically how it relates to this:
http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=11225

-John

20-02-2009 12:24

Mike Schreiber

Re: pic: How high can u jump?

If used for turning it is in no way aiding in traction, it is aiding in manuevering, so I see no problem, but, of course, I am not a ref nor a member of the GDC...

20-02-2009 13:31

JamJam263

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You would be right, but "HUGE" depends on your point of view. If you think a 12" diameter, ~20 lbs fly wheel driven 1:1 by a CIM, is huge then yah, it's huge. It is the robot we're using, we just removed the top half of it for testing the gyro out, which is why the battery is held on with a clamp. We didn't mean for it to jump we were just testing out its driving capabilities. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJMuKH9WkZo if anyone is interested to where the still frame is from.

20-02-2009 15:46

Brandon Holley

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It would turn signifigantly better if you guys could somehow shorten up your wheel base a bit....the shorter you make it the better it will be...

20-02-2009 16:21

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A little late in the season for that change

20-02-2009 16:22

Elgin Clock

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I hate seeing Q&A posts that kill an idea I had early on in the season.
So much for making my own bot based on that very question by the team for off-seasons & just to play around with.

20-02-2009 17:58

Kevin Sevcik

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If <R06> rules this out, I'll eat my hat. The gyro is applying a moment to the robot, not a force. The net downward force of the robot has to stay the same, as long as all 4 wheels are on the ground. If the gyro actually causes the robot to pop a wheelie as seen in the video, then that could be an infraction. Maybe. There's arguably an increase in normal force when the CoM accelerates upwards, and when the robot ultimately falls down again.

The mechanism obviously isn't designed with this in mind, however, so you can't declare it illegal, per the GDC's recent ruling about mechanisms that have the potential to exceed the starting size of the robot. At worst, the refs would call a penalty whenever the robot popped a wheelie. At which point, you'd have to penalize every robot that ever popped a wheelie from running into a wall, another robot, etc., etc. Which is ludicrous, to my mind.

Granted, I'm not the GDC, and they've been making some pretty difficult to enforce rulings lately in the name of applying rules universally and with excessive consistency... So I'll be on the lookout for good hat recipes, just in case.

20-02-2009 22:40

JamJam263

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If its <R06> they DQ us on I'll eat my entire outfit. The only rule that I'm worried about is:

Other then telling us its storing energy illegally or storing it unsafely, I think we're safe

20-02-2009 22:50

Vikesrock

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<R01> should not be a problem at all with this robot as I understand it. There is no energy stored in the motionless gyro at the start of the match.

20-02-2009 22:58

roboticWanderor

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how much does that weigh??

21-02-2009 11:03

JamJam263

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Originally it was 34.25lbs, but that was when it was a solid mass. Now that it has spokes and they took off some of the rim, I believe it's around 20lbs.