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By: Jamie Kalb
New: 17-10-2009 15:36
Updated: 18-10-2009 20:28
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Hello world! The Green MacHHHHine is a 2010 rookie FRC team from Rolling Hills Santa Clara County 4-H.
As far as I know, we're the first 4-H team in California (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Our members got together over the summer to build a robot for CalGames as a training project in preparation for our rookie season. At CalGames, we seeded 9th out of 36 teams and won the Highest Seeded Rookie Award!
A big thank-you to teams 8 and 852! Without you guys, we would have had no chance of holding off the offensive firepower of 254, 604, and 2854.
I also want to thank all the following teams for their gracious professionalism in helping us out during various stages of starting up:
8 Paly High
100 The WildHats
115 Monta Vista
254 The CheesyPoofs
604 Quixilver
846 The Funky Monkeys
1868 The Space Cookies
2854 The Prototpyes
We're registered for SVR 2010. We're doing lots of training in the off-season, so we'll be ready to roll come January. We'll see if we can top our CalGames performance!
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20-10-2009 07:02
Chris_Elston
Re: pic: Team 3129, The Green MacHHHHine, at CalGames 2009
If the CD community didn't quite catch that....
This is a rookie team that built a whole robot just for an off season EVENT. Wow. I said to their team leader Irv. This will certainly be one rookie team to keep in your radar. Great job guys!
Good luck Irv with your team!
20-10-2009 11:38
Daniel_LaFleur
Re: pic: Team 3129, The Green MacHHHHine, at CalGames 2009
Welcome to FIRST and the 4-H family from Plan "B" (Team 1729, another 4-H team ... although from New Hampshire).
20-10-2009 11:52
Aren_Hill
Re: pic: Team 3129, The Green MacHHHHine, at CalGames 2009
I'm still always gonna think of 1816 when i hear green machine, but your on the other end of the country so im not imagining any confusion until possibly champs.
Epic job on building a bot before your official rookie season btw
20-10-2009 11:56
Chris is me
Re: pic: Team 3129, The Green MacHHHHine, at CalGames 2009
*notes 3129 for Fantasy First next year, got "Rookie All-Star" written all over em*
Congratulations 3129! Your robot could probably beat a good chunk of veteran's robots across the country. What a great way to start a team!
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Originally Posted by Aren_Hill
I'm still always gonna think of 1816 when i hear green machine, but your on the other end of the country so im not imagining any confusion until possibly champs.
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20-10-2009 18:24
Jamie Kalb
Re: pic: Team 3129, The Green MacHHHHine, at CalGames 2009
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Originally Posted by Chris is me
*notes 3129 for Fantasy First next year, got "Rookie All-Star" written all over em*
Congratulations 3129! Your robot could probably beat a good chunk of veteran's robots across the country. What a great way to start a team! 1816 is short 3 H's. |
Btw, our "Green MacHHHHine" is pronounced the same as 1816's; the first, second, and fourth H's are silent
20-10-2009 18:24
Matt382
Re: pic: Team 3129, The Green MacHHHHine, at CalGames 2009
I think having another Green Machine will bring both our teams more publicity! We are signed up for champs this year so I hope we can get on an alliance with you guys that would be sweet. Suprisingly if you google "green machine" you will get tons of results, it seems to be a pretty common name for things.
20-10-2009 18:26
Jamie Kalb
Re: pic: Team 3129, The Green MacHHHHine, at CalGames 2009
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Originally Posted by Matt382
I think having another Green Machine will bring both our teams more publicity! We are signed up for champs this year so I hope we can get on an alliance with you guys that would be sweet. Suprisingly if you google "green machine" you will get tons of results, it seems to be a pretty common name for things.
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20-10-2009 18:44
Lowfategg
Re: pic: Team 3129, The Green MacHHHHine, at CalGames 2009
More powerhouse rookies? Oh ya! 
Love the name by the way.
20-10-2009 20:19
AdamHeard
Re: pic: Team 3129, The Green MacHHHHine, at CalGames 2009
Sorry to ruin everyone's hope for them to win rookie all-star, but they have some experienced members from other teams.
Still very possible for them to win some other stuff though; that's a decent looking robot.
20-10-2009 20:31
Jamie Kalb
Re: pic: Team 3129, The Green MacHHHHine, at CalGames 2009
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Originally Posted by AdamHeard
Sorry to ruin everyone's hope for them to win rookie all-star, but they have some experienced members from other teams.
Still very possible for them to win some other stuff though; that's a decent looking robot. |
http://www.usfirst.org/community/frc...t.aspx?id=6632
20-10-2009 20:47
Jamie Kalb
Re: pic: Team 3129, The Green MacHHHHine, at CalGames 2009
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Originally Posted by AdamHeard
Sorry to ruin everyone's hope for them to win rookie all-star, but they have some experienced members from other teams.
Still very possible for them to win some other stuff though; that's a decent looking robot. |
http://www.usfirst.org/community/frc...t.aspx?id=6632
We're allowed to have up to five experienced members - we have four.
20-10-2009 20:53
Akash Rastogi
Re: pic: Team 3129, The Green MacHHHHine, at CalGames 2009
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Originally Posted by Jamie Kalb
We're allowed to have up to five experienced members - we have four.
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Best of luck, we're also mentoring a Cali rookie this year.
20-10-2009 21:27
NickE
Re: pic: Team 3129, The Green MacHHHHine, at CalGames 2009
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Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi
Very nice. Mind showing what team(s) these members are from? I'd like to see how awesome of a mix will be debuting this year.
Best of luck, we're also mentoring a Cali rookie this year. |
21-10-2009 00:55
IrvKalb
Re: pic: Team 3129, The Green MacHHHHine, at CalGames 2009
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Originally Posted by Chris_Elston
If the CD community didn't quite catch that....
This is a rookie team that built a whole robot just for an off season EVENT. Wow. I said to their team leader Irv. This will certainly be one rookie team to keep in your radar. Great job guys! Good luck Irv with your team! |
Good luck to you and your team this year.
Irv
Mentor, Team 3129, the Green MacHHHHine
21-10-2009 01:30
Jon Jack
Re: pic: Team 3129, The Green MacHHHHine, at CalGames 2009
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Originally Posted by Jamie Kalb
We're allowed to have up to five experienced members - we have four.
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In reality you have four experienced members, which is four more than any other rookie team will have. Also, how many mentors are you bringing over from 971? Why shouldn't those be considered as well?
I'll let the court of public opinion decide this one...
21-10-2009 02:13
Chris is me
Re: pic: Team 3129, The Green MacHHHHine, at CalGames 2009
I think they're bringing four mentors previously on 971...
I don't see that having a mentor or two from another team is a bad thing; if anything it should be encouraged! One of the most helpful things a team can provide for a rookie is help in the way of mentorship. Team 1675, who was a significant part of 1714's first year or so (to the point where they were listed as a "sponsor" in our team's name) shared mentors with us (all I know off the top of my head is Kevin Kolodziej, who served as field coach for both teams for two years). I believe former rookie 2826 had a shared mentor or two with 93.
I think there has to be a line somewhere as to what "rookie" is defined by, and FIRST has a nice one. If I started a team tomorrow, would you really call that not a rookie team? Perhaps 3129 toes near it, but I wouldn't call them "non rookie" just yet.
21-10-2009 02:31
AdamHeard
Re: pic: Team 3129, The Green MacHHHHine, at CalGames 2009
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Originally Posted by Chris is me
I think they're bringing four mentors previously on 971...
I don't see that having a mentor or two from another team is a bad thing; if anything it should be encouraged! One of the most helpful things a team can provide for a rookie is help in the way of mentorship. Team 1675, who was a significant part of 1714's first year or so (to the point where they were listed as a "sponsor" in our team's name) shared mentors with us (all I know off the top of my head is Kevin Kolodziej, who served as field coach for both teams for two years). I believe former rookie 2826 had a shared mentor or two with 93. I think there has to be a line somewhere as to what "rookie" is defined by, and FIRST has a nice one. If I started a team tomorrow, would you really call that not a rookie team? Perhaps 3129 toes near it, but I wouldn't call them "non rookie" just yet. |
Not to mention, these are from a team that went undefeated (and was #1 seed) at San Jose last year, had a great robot, and oh yeah, won the world champs last year.
More competitive teams and helping others is always nice, I just think it's unfair to label them as rookies. Now, if they only have 4 students, it isn't their fault, as they're just following the rules. But still, one has to point out it's kind of ridiculous.
If myself and a few other cal poly mentors started a new team tomorrow, with not experienced students, I would personally feel bad about claiming to be rookies.
21-10-2009 02:36
Cory
Re: pic: Team 3129, The Green MacHHHHine, at CalGames 2009
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Originally Posted by AdamHeard
If myself and a few other cal poly mentors started a new team tomorrow, with not experienced students, I would personally feel bad about claiming to be rookies.
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Would FIRST let you start a new team and get rookie status?
It brings into question their entire process of labeling teams as rookies or veterans.
21-10-2009 02:54
Chris is me
Re: pic: Team 3129, The Green MacHHHHine, at CalGames 2009
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Originally Posted by Cory
What if 973 were to graduate all the students and have 3 kids left for next year?
Would FIRST let you start a new team and get rookie status? It brings into question their entire process of labeling teams as rookies or veterans. |
I wonder how much of this rule is hard and fast and how much of it is common sense interpretation by FIRST officials.
21-10-2009 03:00
Cory
Re: pic: Team 3129, The Green MacHHHHine, at CalGames 2009
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Originally Posted by Chris is me
An even further interesting question: If 1717 (which I believe graduates their entire team yearly) had four mentors, would they be rookies every single year?
I wonder how much of this rule is hard and fast and how much of it is common sense interpretation by FIRST officials. |
21-10-2009 12:21
Nuttyman54
Re: pic: Team 3129, The Green MacHHHHine, at CalGames 2009
Just like there is a wide range of experience in veteran teams, each rookie team is unique in it's makeup of mentors, students and combined experience. Every year there are veteran teams which struggle due to large member or mentor turnovers and low funding, and there are rookie teams which blast onto the scene with amazing success (1902, 2056, 2753, the list goes on). A lot of these teams have quite a bit of previous experience, be it mentors who participated in FIRST, or FTC.
Whether or not a team qualifies for rookie status is very situation dependent. I fully believe FIRST has made the correct decision in allowing 3129 to be considered FRC rookies. They have worked very hard to put together a brand new team in the Bay Area, and I wish them the best of luck in 2010.
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