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By: O'Sancheski
New: 24-02-2011 08:03
Updated: 24-02-2011 08:03
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"MattC9" wanted to see a picture of our bot with red bumpers. It looks so much better with the blue ones.
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=92840
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24-02-2011 19:04
MattC9
Re: pic: Team Paragon 571 Logomotion 2011
This just made my day. I didn't think you would do it, thanks soooo much.
24-02-2011 19:19
EricH
Re: pic: Team Paragon 571 Logomotion 2011
Something that didn't pick up in the earlier one:
Are both those lights RSLs from the KOP? If so, you may wish to take a look at http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=17077 and plan according to the GDC's answer. Though I hope that you don't change that look; there aren't a lot of robots that have faces on them these days.
24-02-2011 19:45
O'Sancheski
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Originally Posted by MattC9
This just made my day. I didn't think you would do it, thanks soooo much.
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Originally Posted by EricH
Something that didn't pick up in the earlier one:
Are both those lights RSLs from the KOP? If so, you may wish to take a look at http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=17077 and plan according to the GDC's answer. Though I hope that you don't change that look; there aren't a lot of robots that have faces on them these days. |
The lights are from the KOP. We bought an extra one to make it look like a face on our electronics case. The rules state that we have to have at least one signal light.
24-02-2011 20:02
EricH
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Originally Posted by O'Sancheski
The lights are from the KOP. We bought an extra one to make it look like a face on our electronics case. The rules state that we have to have at least one signal light.
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| <R54> ROBOTS shall use the diagnostic Robot Signal Light (RSL) provided in the KOP. It must be mounted on the ROBOT such that it is easily visible while standing three feet in front of the ROBOT in the NORMAL CONFIGURATION. |
Like I said, I don't have a problem with having two RSLs saying the same thing, except that the GDC has opted to say that two RSLs on the robot are illegal. It would be wise to ask them if you are allowed to have two RSLs that are both acting as RSLs.
24-02-2011 22:31
O'Sancheski
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Originally Posted by EricH
Uhhh... I have to question if you looked at the link to the Q&A. Understanding that it seems to be used as a signal light, not a signaling device, I personally don't see a problem, except that the GDC apparently does. I believe that their statement is based on the use of the singular definite article "the" and ensuing use of the singular pronoun "it" in the rule referenced.
The Inspection Checklist uses the singular terminology as well. Like I said, I don't have a problem with having two RSLs saying the same thing, except that the GDC has opted to say that two RSLs on the robot are illegal. It would be wise to ask them if you are allowed to have two RSLs that are both acting as RSLs. |
24-02-2011 22:48
Chris is me
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Does the Q&A mean only one KIND of single light, or only one signal light period?
24-02-2011 22:50
548swimmer
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Originally Posted by Chris is me
Does the Q&A mean only one KIND of single light, or only one signal light period?
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24-02-2011 23:09
O'Sancheski
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Looking at it makes me believe that you can only have one light period. If the inspectors say something then I guess we will have to take one off.
25-02-2011 21:44
O'Sancheski
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Just a clarification. The reason for the Q&A discussion for the topic of the signal light was because team number 885 wanted to use multiple signal lights to use as a function other than signaling that the robot is powered on. Both of the lights on our robot serve that purpose. We decided that we were going to use two lights to make a face on the front of our electronics case.
The the Q&A username "2011FRC0885" was asking if they could use a signal light from a past robot. The GDC was stating that they had to use one purchased in the KOP or has not been used on any competition bots.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see us violating rule <R54>.
25-02-2011 21:53
EricH
Re: pic: Team Paragon 571 Logomotion 2011
I don't see the problem either. However, whether we see the problem or not is irrelevant. The GDC has stated that you can only have one RSL.
Now, I'm sure that if you went to the Q&A and said, "We have two RSLs on our robot. Both are the right part number, and both operate as RSLs, within the rules. Is this legal, and if not, why not?", they'd do some thinking. What the answer would be is anybody's guess.
25-02-2011 22:55
O'Sancheski
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Originally Posted by EricH
I don't see the problem either. However, whether we see the problem or not is irrelevant. The GDC has stated that you can only have one RSL.
Now, I'm sure that if you went to the Q&A and said, "We have two RSLs on our robot. Both are the right part number, and both operate as RSLs, within the rules. Is this legal, and if not, why not?", they'd do some thinking. What the answer would be is anybody's guess. |
26-02-2011 00:11
548swimmer
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Originally Posted by O'Sancheski
Ok. Ill do that. Thank you for the help.
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Thanks.
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