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banebot p60 256:1 damage

Swampdude

By: Swampdude
New: 27-02-2011 17:13
Updated: 27-02-2011 17:13
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banebot p60 256:1 damage

This shows the attempted repair and subsequent damage to a banebot p60 256:1 for those interested.

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27-02-2011 18:53

Andrew Bates


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Any background information on how the gearbox originally broke?



27-02-2011 18:58

Hawiian Cadder


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Any background information on how the gearbox originally broke?
my guess would be too much torque.
256-1 is a pretty hefty ratio and it would not be too dificult to get a lot of torque on that.



27-02-2011 19:07

sanddrag


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Do you have a picture of the application? Was there an additional ratio after this, to an arm (of what length and weight?)?



27-02-2011 19:14

Swampdude


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In this picture where you see the AM toughbox, there were (2) p60's and (2) sprockets up top working together with a 3:1 sprocket reduction. That original setup was more sedate than what the AM toughbox with a 5:1 reduction is seeing. It's much faster now and that's a good thing.



27-02-2011 19:39

IndySam


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In this picture where you see the AM toughbox, there were (2) p60's and (2) sprockets up top working together with a 3:1 sprocket reduction. That original setup was more sedate than what the AM toughbox with a 5:1 reduction is seeing. It's much faster now and that's a good thing.
What are you going to replace that CIM with?



27-02-2011 21:01

Swampdude


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We're replacing 2 drive cims w/ banebot cimulators and bb775's. Hopefully those will hold up for drive usage.



27-02-2011 21:13

IndySam


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We're replacing 2 drive cims w/ banebot cimulators and bb775's. Hopefully those will hold up for drive usage.
Are you using the FP? It would rock on a AM planetary on that toughbox.



27-02-2011 21:36

Swampdude


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I'm afraid of stalling/toasting FP's. Last year our AM Toughbox kicker mercilessly stalled a CIM and beat the tar out of it but it never quit. So I'll stick with Andy's Toughbox and CIM combo. Andymark never let us down.... good stuff.



27-02-2011 23:15

Hawiian Cadder


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i would not recommend using a FP in a situation like that, we did on our lift and toasted 4 before we got it marginally working, fisher prices really really don't like being stalled.



28-02-2011 00:04

pfreivald


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We have an FP on our lift, but with neutral buoyancy and a screw drive, the motor is never under stall.

I'm more worried about the BB transmission than I am the motor under that setup.



28-02-2011 00:11

Chris is me


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I'm afraid of stalling/toasting FP's.
It's a legitimate concern, but seriously, with the kind of reduction you need for an arm, you won't damage the FP at all.

The drivetrain is a much more stressful place than an arm for motors like the FP and RS-775. Seriously.



28-02-2011 00:13

pfreivald


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The drivetrain is a much more stressful place than an arm for motors like the FP and RS-775. Seriously.
Well, as usual, categorical statements like that are not necessarily true.

It depends a lot on how things are designed, now, doesn't it? After all, those FP motors are for Power Wheels... And what do they run on those Power Wheels, after all?



28-02-2011 00:14

Chris is me


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It depends a lot on how things are designed, now, doesn't it? After all, those FP motors are for Power Wheels... And what do they run on those Power Wheels, after all?
Plastic wheels that have no hope of stalling!



28-02-2011 08:19

pfreivald


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Plastic wheels that have no hope of stalling!
With eight brothers and a propensity toward clown-car-ism, I can assure those wheels can stall!



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