27-10-2011 12:48

MattC9

Re: pic: 2012 Beta Hardware

So that jag looks like the black jag's we had last year. Is that the same black jag? or if it is new, what is different about it? and what does the new relay do?

27-10-2011 13:27

thefro526

Re: pic: 2012 Beta Hardware

If you wouldn't mind, can you take a picture of the new relay module next to a Spike relay? Doesn't seem like the two should be all that different in size, but it's hard to tell.

27-10-2011 13:39

Mark McLeod

Re: pic: 2012 Beta Hardware

Team 1718 posted a comparison shot:
http://forums.usfirst.org/showpost.p...46&postcount=1

Remember this new Relay won't get used in 2012. We might see it in the Kit next season though.

27-10-2011 13:54

thefro526

Re: pic: 2012 Beta Hardware

Thanks Mark! Looks to be about the size of two spikes together. Not bad.

27-10-2011 14:22

Brandon Holley

Re: pic: 2012 Beta Hardware

We're also beta testing the new relay. If you were to take 2 spike relays, and put them side by side, the area they take up is smaller than the area the new relays take up. However, the new relay offers some advantages in actually having 2 relays per. Wiring also requires no crimp connects, just the same screwdriver clamp down we've seen on other FRC components. The input wiring is also only done once and is shared between both outputs on the new relay. One less point of failure I suppose.

-Brando

27-10-2011 15:28

Ninja_Bait

Re: pic: 2012 Beta Hardware

The new relay is also just easier to read and therefore wire; however, it feels like a prize from a cereal (cRIO?) box - I know it's in beta right now, but it reeks of cheap outsourced manufacture with ugly seams and mysterious rattling parts. :

27-10-2011 17:16

Madison

Re: pic: 2012 Beta Hardware

I hope that the IFI relays will, like their speed controllers, remain legal components.

27-10-2011 20:20

rachelholladay

Re: pic: 2012 Beta Hardware

Okay, it looks the same. There are no visible differences. We will be testing all three components this weekends and ill note if we find any major differences.

27-10-2011 21:03

Jared Russell

Re: pic: 2012 Beta Hardware

Just a note...

The new "David" Relays are being beta tested for potential future use...they will not be a part of the 2012 Kit of Parts.

27-10-2011 21:04

Tom Line

Re: pic: 2012 Beta Hardware

Hardware wise, as far as I remember, they are the same. However, they have new firmware with a couple more options, and they're working on improving the CAN system with them as well.