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How 2415 is rolling for 2014

sdcantrell56

By: sdcantrell56
New: 28-01-2014 10:00
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How 2415 is rolling for 2014

Finally got in the wcproducts and vexpro parts and were able to assemble our rolling drivetrain. I have to say the quality has surpassed our expectations

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28-01-2014 12:02

TheFrozenSlink


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You might want to add a center drop to what, the versa blocks come pre made with offset holes, by flipping the blocks on the outside wheels so that the flat part is on top, you can add an (IIRC) 1/8th in center drop.



28-01-2014 12:04

Brandon Holley


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What is this chain nonsense on a 2415 bot?? :-P

-Brando



28-01-2014 12:34

Richard Wallace


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WCD in a box! Who'da thunkit!

Looking good so far, don't forget the bumper brackets.



28-01-2014 12:57

JohnSchneider


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West coast, best coast.



28-01-2014 13:48

Anupam Goli


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You might want to add a center drop to what, the versa blocks come pre made with offset holes, by flipping the blocks on the outside wheels so that the flat part is on top, you can add an (IIRC) 1/8th in center drop.
It looks like a square chassis, so I don't think turning will be too big of a problem with the setup they have going. Besides, I don't think 2415 would show up to a competition with a drivebase that doesn't turn or has a tough time turning



28-01-2014 13:55

Michael Corsetto


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Curious, why the decision to run chain on the outside of your side rails?

Looks beautiful, great work!

-Mike



28-01-2014 14:14

Richard Wallace


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Curious, why the decision to run chain on the outside of your side rails?
In a contest between a stationary digital sidecar and a (suddenly loose) length of #25 chain moving at >12 fps, which one wins?



28-01-2014 14:18

TD78


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In a contest between a stationary digital sidecar and a (suddenly loose) length of #25 chain moving at >12 fps, which one wins?
Not to mention it's easier servicing sprockets and chain outside of the gearbox.



28-01-2014 14:24

wireties


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Curious, why the decision to run chain on the outside of your side rails?

Looks beautiful, great work!

-Mike
Ditto - looks great!

Are you nervous having the cantilevered portion of the shaft longer than is WCD-typical? And now both forces from the wheels and the chain are working on the extended (from the frame) portion of the shaft.

Sorry if this is a silly question - I'm a goofy EE, its all transitors, 1s and 0s to me.



28-01-2014 14:24

rcmolloy


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Second the question that Michael brought up on the side rails.

I'm curious to see how the bearings hold up due to the the larger cantilevered lever arm they are sitting on. If you already calculated out the reactionary forces on the bearings due to the robot weight and deemed it good then disregard!

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In a contest between a stationary digital sidecar and a (suddenly loose) length of #25 chain moving at >12 fps, which one wins?
Chain guards seem to be a plausible way to help the DSC out



28-01-2014 14:45

Arpan


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Ditto - looks great!

Are you nervous having the cantilevered portion of the shaft longer than is WCD-typical? And now both forces from the wheels and the chain are working on the extended (from the frame) portion of the shaft.

Sorry if this is a silly question - I'm a goofy EE, its all transitors, 1s and 0s to me.
On our team, we're running a similar setup with 15mm belts. Our FEA suggested that our shafts would be more than fine.



28-01-2014 15:01

JeffersonMartin


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Still see that vacuum sneaking into the photo.



28-01-2014 15:04

Kellen Hill


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Still see that vacuum sneaking into he photo.
That's the part I'm looking forward to seeing more of.



28-01-2014 15:39

sdcantrell56


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Second the question that Michael brought up on the side rails.

I'm curious to see how the bearings hold up due to the the larger cantilevered lever arm they are sitting on. If you already calculated out the reactionary forces on the bearings due to the robot weight and deemed it good then disregard!



Chain guards seem to be a plausible way to help the DSC out
We ran the calculations. The axles will be perfectly fine.

Chain on the outside is to free up space on the inside of the robot and easier servicing. We have run belt the past 4 years and so far I am much much happier going back to chain, particularly with the versa bearing blocks and cams



28-01-2014 15:53

magnets


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Ditto - looks great!

Are you nervous having the cantilevered portion of the shaft longer than is WCD-typical? And now both forces from the wheels and the chain are working on the extended (from the frame) portion of the shaft.

Sorry if this is a silly question - I'm a goofy EE, its all transitors, 1s and 0s to me.
You're absolutely right. This cantilevered shaft is weaker than a normal WCD shaft because it's longer and isn't loaded on both sides. However, I'm pretty sure it's strong enough, especially with no bumps or towers to wreck your frame this year.

Good choice with chains- I think they're better than belts.



28-01-2014 22:01

Akash Rastogi


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We ran the calculations. The axles will be perfectly fine.

Chain on the outside is to free up space on the inside of the robot and easier servicing. We have run belt the past 4 years and so far I am much much happier going back to chain, particularly with the versa bearing blocks and cams
What's the length of the slot you made for tensioning the VersaBlock? Just wondering.

Looking really nice!



28-01-2014 22:39

Andrew Y.


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Sean demanded the chain be cleaned in a ultrasonic bath so his hipster clothes wont get dirty. Its the only reason we ever did belt.



28-01-2014 23:01

Andrew Schreiber


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Sean demanded the chain be cleaned in a ultrasonic bath so his hipster clothes wont get dirty. Its the only reason we ever did belt.
You know, the worst part is I'm not so sure this is a joke.



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