11-03-2014 08:07

Nemo

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Flyers don't seem like a bad idea for this. People who've never seen the discussion threads will see the message that way.

I think you'd be better off without "teh sirkut brackers" or "!!!!!1111one," because some people won't get it and dismiss the whole flier. I think you could actually reach some people with these, maybe even safety inspectors who tell students to yell robot.

(I enjoy the League of Their Own reference)

Maybe a one sentence description of why could go on one of these? "Because it is annoying and counterproductive," etc.

11-03-2014 08:37

EricLeifermann

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I support this message.

11-03-2014 08:39

JosephC

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I fully support this with the changes that Nemo posted.

11-03-2014 13:51

Christopher149

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Also, turn off spell check in Word before taking a screenshot; the red underline is distracting.

11-03-2014 13:59

tim-tim

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I think it adds character.

11-03-2014 16:04

cgmv123

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There are better ways to turn a Word Document into an image than taking a screenshot.

12-03-2014 10:19

Invictus3593

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As a team that does this at out events, I don't see the problem with shouting "robot" when you need to get to a match and there are people in front of you who are impeding your progress.

It also helps with safety; some unsuspecting chum could get hit by a 120lb robot if he doesn't know it's coming and no one tells him to look out.

And I agree with Nemo, if you're going to use this at an event, take off the unnecessary misspellings and "111one".

12-03-2014 10:23

JosephC

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Then you have someone walk in front of your robot cart and politely ask people to move out of the way so you can get to your match. Trust me, tapping on my shoulder and asking me to move makes me want to move a lot more than someone screaming robot at me. Besides, due to the echo-y nature of a lot of events, how am I supposed to know if the person yelling robot is behind me, or 20 feet away on the other side of the gym?

22-03-2014 15:07

Invictus3593

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we don't run up to peoples ears and scream "ROBOT". Why is it a problem to show some gracious professionalism and move two steps out of the way no matter how people ask? We're not intentionally being rude by yelling at people to "MOVE OUT OF THE WAY", we're announcing a hazard as we come through and I don't understand how anyone would take it differently. Is your current position in the middle of the aisle so important that we need to have a 4-man team running in front of our robot in a crowded aisle and asking each person individually to move? In the interest of efficiency, announcing that our robot is coming through is much more realistic of a solution.

it's pretty much one of the basic functions of the human ear, positioning. Anyone can distinguish an announcements distance, even in an "echo-y" environment. Take it from a sound engineer.

22-03-2014 19:27

JosephC

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Is your current position on your way to queue for a match so important that you can't take 5 seconds to ask someone to move out of the way or add a couple words to your sentence to appear more polite? Yes, for those of us that have been in robotics for years and been to multiple events we know what to do when someone shouts out robot. For those parents, school students, and VIPs that take time out of their day to come and see what FIRST is all about, they don't know what to do when someone says Robot. "Robot coming through, please let us by!" That's all you have to say so that everyone at a competition will know what you mean and move out of your way, and you'll find that it's a lot quicker too.

As someone who volunteers on the field every single week, I can tell you that my hearing is pretty much shot by week 3. In my own personal experience, which may be different for other people, I can't tell where people shout robot from, especially when other teams start shouting it as well even though they aren't the ones with the robot. Hell, I've heard people shouting it plenty of times when the robot isn't even within 50 feet of me.

22-03-2014 20:23

connor.worley

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In my mind it's not okay to yell "robot", but it's perfectly fine to yell "excuse us". Here's why. For some reason, people have started yelling robot for robots that don't belong to them. Not only does this create a lot of noise pollution, but it also causes a lot of confusion about the actual location of the robot. Some people will yell robot for a robot that they can't even see, provided they heard someone else yell it. At the San Diego regional, about 80% of the time I heard someone yell robot, I paused, looked around, and couldn't find any robots in transit nearby. We've stuck to yelling excuse us, and we manage to get peoples attention without spreading excessive noise through the pits. Never have had an issue with hitting anyone with our cart. YMMV.

If people only yelled robot for their own robot, I'd be okay with it.