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823543:1 Reduction Versaplanatery

Owen Busler

By: Owen Busler
New: 21-01-2016 01:32
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823543:1 Reduction Versaplanatery

I guess I didn't give enough instruction when I asked an inexperienced team member to assemble a versa planetary with a 1:7 reduction. Once he reached this step he asked where he could find bolts long enough to hold it together.

It ended up as a 7^7:1 (823543:1) reduction.

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21-01-2016 10:05

Nathan Streeter


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Too funny!

If my quick calculations are correct, you'd have to wait 57 minutes to watch the output shaft make one revolution!



21-01-2016 10:06

Ryan Caldwell


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this will resolve any issue with back drive.



21-01-2016 10:06

CalTran


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Too funny!

If my quick calculations are correct, you'd have to wait 57 minutes to watch the output shaft make one revolution!
But man, think of the torque implications that has!



21-01-2016 10:12

PayneTrain


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Just *barely* falls off the load rating chart.

However you can always ship it back to Paul if you break it; you know, see what happens.



21-01-2016 10:13

Tim Sharp


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Should be fine if you ever need to pick up a truck...or a house.



21-01-2016 10:16

Nathan Streeter


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But man, think of the torque implications that has!
If only the internal gearing on the final 3 stages and the 1/2" hex output shaft could carry the torque!

261,000 foot-pounds of torque could lift every single robot in FRC together... still with a 12" spool. Of course, you'd want to use like a 3" spool so it could still lift at peak power, not stall... and it'd take about 2 and a half hours... and 254's stockpile of batteries.



21-01-2016 10:19

carpedav000


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This looks like something 71 would be responsible for



21-01-2016 11:06

Sperkowsky


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So have you found the screws yet? Reminds me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUbpb23yTK8



21-01-2016 12:02

MaGiC_PiKaChU


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Do you even torque?



21-01-2016 12:09

HunterS


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Should be fine if you ever need to pick up a truck...or a house.
or a boulder...



21-01-2016 12:34

Zebra_Fact_Man


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Too funny!

If my quick calculations are correct, you'd have to wait 57 minutes to watch the output shaft make one revolution!
Congratulations; you almost just made yourself the world's torquiest hour hand.



21-01-2016 12:37

marshall


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Too funny!

If my quick calculations are correct, you'd have to wait 57 minutes to watch the output shaft make one revolution!
Ahh... the old long con...



21-01-2016 12:57

marcusbernstein


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Why climb up to the scaling rungs when you can move the entire field down to your robot's height?



21-01-2016 12:57

D_Price


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Too funny. At least that team member is learning the idea of gear ratios. haha



21-01-2016 12:58

EmileH


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You might draw enough current just turning all those gears to actually brown out your RoboRIO. At free speed.



21-01-2016 13:08

SenorZ


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Give me enough gearboxes and I'll move the world.



21-01-2016 14:01

Richard Wallace


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I wonder how much voltage you can apply before a sun gear shears off? Also which one will shear?

I imagine this will happen even if nothing is connected to the output shaft.



21-01-2016 14:06

billbo911


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Efficiency? We don't need no efficiency!



21-01-2016 14:23

EmileH


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Efficiency? We don't need no efficiency!
Reminded me of this.



21-01-2016 15:18

Foster


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Cool, looks like it's a good start to the 10,000 year clock construction.

A few more stages, some threaded rod and a pointer and you can mark it DONE!



21-01-2016 16:31

mastachyra


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Congratulations; you almost just made yourself the world's torquiest hour hand.
and it would be about as hard to stop as actually stopping time!



21-01-2016 21:48

theCADguy


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and it would be about as hard to stop as actually stopping time!
Unless you know of an easy way to generate 2,882,400 in-lbs of torque! (Assuming the BAG motor is stalled at an input torque of 3.5 in-lb)



21-01-2016 22:52

Oslim1999


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If my quick calculations are correct, you'd have to wait 57 minutes to watch the output shaft make one revolution!
Is that accounting for any backlash (or i guess forward-lash?) in between the gears, especially on the final gears?



22-01-2016 15:11

gpetilli


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Reminds me of the time I asked a freshman to grease the gears in the gearbox they had assembled. I came back 5 minutes later to find an absolutely perfectly even coat of grease on both sides of the 50T gears - none on the teeth. A true artist.



22-01-2016 16:47

IKE


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Too funny!

If my quick calculations are correct, you'd have to wait 57 minutes to watch the output shaft make one revolution!
Still a little too fast for art:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q-BH-tvxEg



22-01-2016 16:53

waialua359


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Maybe your student thought you folks were using it to launch real boulders.



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