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24 Years of Game Pieces

By: ctt956
New: 06-10-2016 14:33
Updated: 06-10-2016 14:33
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24 Years of Game Pieces

A spreadsheet on the characteristics of all past FRC game pieces, 1992-2016. I researched them by reading Wikipedia and watching match videos. Anything with a question mark I'm unsure about. As for the "FILLER" column, it lists what is inside of the game piece(s). "NONE" means it's empty/hollow, and "AIR" means the game piece is filled with air at pressure greater than that of the ambient air, i.e. inflated. "CIR", "SQ.", "TRI", and "CYL" are abbreviations for "circle", "square", "triangle", and "cylinder", respectively. Spheres are the most common game piece, while "sphere like" objects and squares are the least common. The ball-lifting-ball-unusual pattern can be seen here.

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06-10-2016 16:25

Ari423


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I like this table, but I have one problem with it. In both the size and weight categories, there are big differences within the categories and crossover within the categories. For example, I would say that a stack of totes is much larger than a trackball, even though the trackball is labeled XL and the totes are only L. If you were referring to only one tote, then I would definitely not say that it weighs the same as a tetra. Maybe for better clarity, you can give approximate weight and volume as a number instead of a category. Just a suggestion



06-10-2016 16:32

Mark McLeod


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2000 and 2002 were filled with air.



06-10-2016 16:40

MrForbes


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2009 game piece was about the same size as 2016. I would not call it XS.



06-10-2016 16:42

Andrew Schreiber


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2009 game piece was about the same size as 2016. I would not call it XS.
In that case the S does not stand for small. It stands for a word I'm not allowed to put on here.



06-10-2016 16:45

MrForbes


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still one of my favorite games!



06-10-2016 16:47

MARS_James


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Wouldn't 06, 12 and 16 be Foam not NONE, I know you call them a foam ball later on but you define none as meaning empty/hollow and those were definitely not hollow



06-10-2016 16:50

ctt956


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I like this table, but I have one problem with it. In both the size and weight categories, there are big differences within the categories and crossover within the categories. For example, I would say that a stack of totes is much larger than a trackball, even though the trackball is labeled XL and the totes are only L. If you were referring to only one tote, then I would definitely not say that it weighs the same as a tetra. Maybe for better clarity, you can give approximate weight and volume as a number instead of a category. Just a suggestion
Size was in comparison to that year's average robot size, and other years' pieces. Size refers to one game piece.

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2000 and 2002 were filled with air.
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2009 game piece was about the same size as 2016. I would not call it XS.
I wasn't sure, as I haven't seen those game pieces in real life(yet). I'll make a new version with these changes, but I'll probably wait for more. From the 2009 animation, the pieces looked small because the human players were throwing them with one hand.

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In that case the S does not stand for small. It stands for a word I'm not allowed to put on here.
I know those had some quality issues...



06-10-2016 16:51

ctt956


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Wouldn't 06, 12 and 16 be Foam not NONE, I know you call them a foam ball later on but you define none as meaning empty/hollow and those were definitely not hollow
Good point. Is the foam solid though, or does it let air through?



06-10-2016 16:56

billbo911


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...The ball-lifting-ball-unusual pattern can be seen here.
I think it is fairly obvious that the next game piece could reasonably be a Football!!



06-10-2016 17:08

Chris is me


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The 2005 tetra and 2008 trackball both weighed roughly 7 pounds, if I remember correctly.



06-10-2016 17:17

troy_dietz


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It should be noted that 1997 was also a tube.
1997 and 2007 are probably the most similar games in terms of scoring objects and field elements. (tubes on a spinning rack)
The main differences were the number of robots and the shape of the field, but those were the standard format at the time.



06-10-2016 18:42

Koko Ed


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We have most of them. The 1999 pieces make for good impromptu pillows for those all-nighters.



06-10-2016 19:03

EricH


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We have most of them. The 1999 pieces make for good impromptu pillows for those all-nighters.
Stuffed with foam peanuts... how many have you guys replaced over the years???

BTW, 1997, 1999, and 2007's elements are not circles, they are toruses, or if you want to be less technical, donuts. Otherwise, I do believe that all those "sphere" elements get to be classed as "circle".



06-10-2016 19:25

ctt956


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Guys, I was not around in FIRST 1992-2015 regular season. I have seen some of the game pieces from previous years, some outside of FIRST. Thanks for filling me in on the stuff I missed. I spent a long time researching this, and all of that information isn't clear from Wikipedia articles and older YouTube videos.



06-10-2016 22:33

GeeTwo


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Great start on this list!

Two additional columns I would have added are "Scoring" and "Number", which are how you score them (throwing vs placing at a minimum), and how many you are allowed to carry/score at a time.

For shape, I would call 1997 and 2007 "torus" and 2011 "toroids", or torus with an asterisk. 1999 is "disc-like", and 2013 is "disc". For 2005, nothing but "tetra" (or tetrahedron) really says it.



07-10-2016 00:27

DaveL


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This table is great.
Can you add the floor or barrier conditions?

Dave



07-10-2016 01:30

EricH


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1999 is "disc-like", and 2013 is "disc".
1999 is one of those truly odd pieces. It's a torus, but the center is covered with a thinner material. Kind of like a glazed donut where the glaze hardened on the cooling surface, bridging the hole.

It's also the floppiest game piece FIRST has ever given (yes, including the pool noodles), pun fully intended.



07-10-2016 06:23

GaryVoshol


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I thought we were going to see a picture of someone's actual collection of game pieces. Shucks.



07-10-2016 11:42

Cothron Theiss


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I thought we were going to see a picture of someone's actual collection of game pieces. Shucks.
Does FIRST have any pictures of ALL of the game pieces somewhere? FIRST should open up a literal Hall of Fame at HQ with all the game pieces, old field elements, maybe get some World Champions to donate their robots from the year they won, and line the hall with all the Hall of Fame Blue Banners. Now THAT would be a field trip I could enjoy.



07-10-2016 17:48

Peyton Yeung


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I thought we were going to see a picture of someone's actual collection of game pieces. Shucks.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BKyz8jrBN6N/?hl=en

We moved out of our old build facility and had game pieces from every game since the team first competed in 2000 including fresh frisbees, basketballs, and inner tubes.



10-10-2016 15:04

OccamzRazor


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I had something very similar to this I shared with the team but it also included goals, field topography, and other game elements besides the scoring pieces. There is a certain trend the games all follow to help you predict minor aspects of the next game.



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