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Average 20 ft. Ceiling

Richard Wallace

By: Richard Wallace
New: 10-26-2018 06:30 PM
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Average 20 ft. Ceiling

Just in time for the snow...

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10-26-2018 09:25 PM

Nick_Coussens


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Make sure you have something on that roof to hang lots of banners from!

Looks great Richard. Awesome job getting this space to happen for your team (and for some others in your area to use as well I'm sure).



10-26-2018 09:40 PM

s_forbes


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oof, that's a lot of envy I'm feeling.



10-26-2018 10:35 PM

Nick.kremer


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Meanwhile at our school, where our school district stole our sink after we installed it ourselves because we got tired of waiting for them to install it...



10-28-2018 09:49 PM

Dan T.


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Meanwhile at our school, where our school district stole our sink after we installed it ourselves because we got tired of waiting for them to install it...
This could be the funniest thing I have read all day.



10-28-2018 10:33 PM

EricH


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This could be the funniest thing I have read all day.
Depends what the sink is for, and how much "fun" you want to have with the school district. If it's for washing shop debris off of hands before eating dinner, the best move is now to play the "angry parents at school board meeting" card, preferably with recording for in case the real trump card has to be played. Making sure that there's a health and safety concern pointed out, too...



10-28-2018 11:54 PM

Nick.kremer


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This could be the funniest thing I have read all day.
The entire thing was ridiculous. Here are some other School District shenanigans from the past few months:
  • Told us we couldn't use the pnuematic airlines we installed for our machines until it was inspected. They took 2-3 weeks to inspect it.
  • Confiscated our CNC router computer suddenly, without telling us or so much as leaving a note to say they took it. We legitimately though it might have been stolen. They needed to "format" it. Doing this consisted of wiping the hardrive, and of course they didn't back up any of the files. We didn't lose much, but we easily could have.
  • Took 4 weeks to install and "format" our new CAD workstations after we put in a request to have them installed. Meanwhile our CAD team of 6 kids plus a mentor had to share 2 laptops. We pretty much lost a month of fall training. The only reason we got that process speed up was because I know someone in the IT department, and convinced him to come in on his break to help us out.
  • Speaking of the CAD laptops, one of them had what we thought was a district Admin password on it, which prevented us from being able to install any new programs on it. We gave it to the IT department, and it took them 2 weeks determine that the admin password was infact not theirs, before giving it back. During this time our CAD team only had one computer.

I am SO GLAD we got our 501c Non-profit up and running so they can't mess up our finances any more like they have this year with our buildroom and computers.



10-29-2018 07:30 AM

Dan T.


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The entire thing was ridiculous. Here are some other School District shenanigans from the past few months:
  • Told us we couldn't use the pnuematic airlines we installed for our machines until it was inspected. They took 2-3 weeks to inspect it.
  • Confiscated our CNC router computer suddenly, without telling us or so much as leaving a note to say they took it. We legitimately though it might have been stolen. They needed to "format" it. Doing this consisted of wiping the hardrive, and of course they didn't back up any of the files. We didn't lose much, but we easily could have.
  • Took 4 weeks to install and "format" our new CAD workstations after we put in a request to have them installed. Meanwhile our CAD team of 6 kids plus a mentor had to share 2 laptops. We pretty much lost a month of fall training. The only reason we got that process speed up was because I know someone in the IT department, and convinced him to come in on his break to help us out.
  • Speaking of the CAD laptops, one of them had what we thought was a district Admin password on it, which prevented us from being able to install any new programs on it. We gave it to the IT department, and it took them 2 weeks determine that the admin password was infact not theirs, before giving it back. During this time our CAD team only had one computer.

I am SO GLAD we got our 501c Non-profit up and running so they can't mess up our finances any more like they have this year with our buildroom and computers.
Ouch, that really stinks, best of luck to ya!



10-29-2018 10:58 AM

lbassett_21


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The entire thing was ridiculous. Here are some other School District shenanigans from the past few months:
  • Told us we couldn't use the pnuematic airlines we installed for our machines until it was inspected. They took 2-3 weeks to inspect it.
  • Confiscated our CNC router computer suddenly, without telling us or so much as leaving a note to say they took it. We legitimately though it might have been stolen. They needed to "format" it. Doing this consisted of wiping the hardrive, and of course they didn't back up any of the files. We didn't lose much, but we easily could have.
  • Took 4 weeks to install and "format" our new CAD workstations after we put in a request to have them installed. Meanwhile our CAD team of 6 kids plus a mentor had to share 2 laptops. We pretty much lost a month of fall training. The only reason we got that process speed up was because I know someone in the IT department, and convinced him to come in on his break to help us out.
  • Speaking of the CAD laptops, one of them had what we thought was a district Admin password on it, which prevented us from being able to install any new programs on it. We gave it to the IT department, and it took them 2 weeks determine that the admin password was infact not theirs, before giving it back. During this time our CAD team only had one computer.

I am SO GLAD we got our 501c Non-profit up and running so they can't mess up our finances any more like they have this year with our buildroom and computers.

Wow you guys are having a rough time dealing with your school. I wish you the best of luck through this coming season with your school!



10-29-2018 02:36 PM

Lil' Lavery


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20 ft! Should be good even for most shooting games.



10-29-2018 03:34 PM

Nick.kremer


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Wow you guys are having a rough time dealing with your school. I wish you the best of luck through this coming season with your school!
Yeah it's been a hassle. Sorry for detailing this thread



10-29-2018 05:28 PM

Richard Wallace


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Yeah it's been a hassle. Sorry for detrailing this thread
No worries on that. The playing field is not level. Your team's experiences spotlight the differing environments that the FIRST community has to contend with. Santa Barbara county is not Michigan, or New Hampshire, or Texas. It even differs from several other parts of Cali, I imagine. (Note: I did live in California several decades ago, and I am certain that the communities I remember have changed quite a bit.)

At least our concrete slab is pretty close to level. We look forward to having the neighbors* over for some friendly robot driving, soon.

*Looking at you, 1940, 2474, 2767, 2959, 3452, 4237, 4325, 4409, 5056, 5182, 5462, 5535, 6627, and any others within easy driving distance that I might have left out.



10-29-2018 05:37 PM

DonRotolo


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I dunno. I'd have asked for walls, too.

No, seriously: Very nice to have the community and administration recognize how very important experiential-based STEM education is for the future of the country world.



10-29-2018 05:42 PM

Richard Wallace


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I dunno. I'd have asked for walls, too.
Walls? We won't be needing walls for at least a week!



10-29-2018 05:54 PM

IKE


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As someone who has bounced wiffles off ot 12 foot rafters, and had to hang ubertubes between the overhead lights.... I am super jealous, but not as jealous as anyone that has had to remove a ceiling tile to test the 8 foot extendable tower....



10-29-2018 08:15 PM

sanddrag


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but not as jealous as anyone that has had to remove a ceiling tile to test the 8 foot extendable tower....
Drop ceilings are the devil's work!



10-29-2018 08:19 PM

Tomithy


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Drop ceilings are the devil's work!
And even worse when a school decides to put a drop ceiling IN THE GYM



10-29-2018 08:23 PM

s_forbes


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Drop ceilings are the devil's work!
Ours weren't too bad ever since our 2014 robot disassembled most of the tiles and got them out of the way. The school fixed it this summer though, so they might get in the way again.



11-06-2018 12:26 PM

Richard Wallace


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Walls? We won't be needing walls for at least a week!
Walls are going up. Webcam.

Just in time, too. Snow is coming, Friday.



11-06-2018 04:09 PM

GBK


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Awesome that you are getting this new space. I love to see schools getting behind this program. You going to be in for build or moving in during build? We moved into ours last year in August. Deceided we wanted to live in it a year to make sure we knew how we wanted everything. Have to say we were pretty close from the git go and still cant get over how nice it is to have



11-06-2018 04:48 PM

efoote868


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20ft doesn't seem tall enough to test some of the early model 2016 driver stations... I think you should've gone with a 22ft ceiling.

Just kidding... that space looks really nice! I'm a little jelly.



11-06-2018 06:10 PM

Batrex


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The entire thing was ridiculous. Here are some other School District shenanigans from the past few months:
  • Told us we couldn't use the pnuematic airlines we installed for our machines until it was inspected. They took 2-3 weeks to inspect it.
  • Confiscated our CNC router computer suddenly, without telling us or so much as leaving a note to say they took it. We legitimately though it might have been stolen. They needed to "format" it. Doing this consisted of wiping the hardrive, and of course they didn't back up any of the files. We didn't lose much, but we easily could have.
  • Took 4 weeks to install and "format" our new CAD workstations after we put in a request to have them installed. Meanwhile our CAD team of 6 kids plus a mentor had to share 2 laptops. We pretty much lost a month of fall training. The only reason we got that process speed up was because I know someone in the IT department, and convinced him to come in on his break to help us out.
  • Speaking of the CAD laptops, one of them had what we thought was a district Admin password on it, which prevented us from being able to install any new programs on it. We gave it to the IT department, and it took them 2 weeks determine that the admin password was infact not theirs, before giving it back. During this time our CAD team only had one computer.

I am SO GLAD we got our 501c Non-profit up and running so they can't mess up our finances any more like they have this year with our buildroom and computers.
Unlike my team, your school gives you a place to work



11-08-2018 09:19 AM

NathanStro


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Looking at you, 1940, 2474, 2767, 2959, 3452, 4237, 4325, 4409, 5056, 5182, 5462, 5535, 6627, and any others within easy driving distance that I might have left out.
i see how it is... Just gonna have to get revenge for that this competition season...



11-08-2018 12:33 PM

Richard Wallace


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i see how it is... Just gonna have to get revenge for that this competition season...
Hey, we love your team! You're welcome anytime. I just thought there were GR area practice fields that would be closer for you.



11-08-2018 07:29 PM

Leap


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Crazy stuff! How'd you manage to get the space/is there any backstory?

Definitely wondering how to up-grade our shops here in California - even 1/4 of what you've got here would be helpful, so I'm certainly interested in any advice you may have for getting better workshop/practice spaces.



11-08-2018 08:47 PM

Richard Wallace


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Crazy stuff! How'd you manage to get the space/is there any backstory?

Definitely wondering how to up-grade our shops here in California - even 1/4 of what you've got here would be helpful, so I'm certainly interested in any advice you may have for getting better workshop/practice spaces.
The short answer is that Mr. Todd offered to build it, and we gratefully accepted.

There are a lot more details that our team will be sharing after the William J. Todd Innovation Center is officially opened, which we anticipate sometime during the upcoming FRC build season.



11-08-2018 09:58 PM

Dan T.


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This is coming together nicely! Is the team paying for it or did the school or some kind donor pay for it? And are there any cost estimates?



11-09-2018 09:21 AM

Brian Gray


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The entire thing was ridiculous. Here are some other School District shenanigans from the past few months:
  • Told us we couldn't use the pnuematic airlines we installed for our machines until it was inspected. They took 2-3 weeks to inspect it.
  • Confiscated our CNC router computer suddenly, without telling us or so much as leaving a note to say they took it. We legitimately though it might have been stolen. They needed to "format" it. Doing this consisted of wiping the hardrive, and of course they didn't back up any of the files. We didn't lose much, but we easily could have.
  • Took 4 weeks to install and "format" our new CAD workstations after we put in a request to have them installed. Meanwhile our CAD team of 6 kids plus a mentor had to share 2 laptops. We pretty much lost a month of fall training. The only reason we got that process speed up was because I know someone in the IT department, and convinced him to come in on his break to help us out.
  • Speaking of the CAD laptops, one of them had what we thought was a district Admin password on it, which prevented us from being able to install any new programs on it. We gave it to the IT department, and it took them 2 weeks determine that the admin password was infact not theirs, before giving it back. During this time our CAD team only had one computer.

I am SO GLAD we got our 501c Non-profit up and running so they can't mess up our finances any more like they have this year with our buildroom and computers.
I could write a book of horror stories from our school. The funny thing is that some of the worst incidents happened when they tried to help.



11-09-2018 10:00 AM

NoshBrooks


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20 ft! Should be good even for most shooting games.
...Drone game.



11-09-2018 10:07 AM

SaltisVonWaltis


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...Drone game.
You jest, but...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colleg..._Demonstration



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