benefit = benefit of being able to fit under bar (why do i feel like i’m writing code?)
case 1:
Your ally’s bot follows the line up to the boxes durring autonomy. Your opponents bot on your side does the same.
benefit: you flip into reverse and push your opponent off the line while your ally gets free reign of the boxes on the bridge.
case 2:
Your human players have a 6x stack in your scoring zone.
Your opponents bot on your side targets stacks over 3
benefit: you flip into reverse and push him into a wall and procede to defend the stack.
case 3:
The other team has 1 bot guarding the bridge and the other protecting there multiplier stack. They have enough boxes to pull of a win but only by a few.
benefit: you zip under the bar and shove a few boxes behind there scoring zone.
i’m sure there are more possibilities but it is 3:20 in the morning and my brain is fried from programming (i’ve already got 2 full programs and a variety of mini programs). Of course its to early to say if we will or wont be pursuing this avenue but it is food for thought. perhaps it would make a good poll…
you could design a forklift whose tiers would be about 12 inches tall, and have three tiers, It would be able to lift to 36 inches, and when compact, be less than 14 inche give or take a little based on your design. You would want to use a powerful slow motor to do this with, so you could lift the stack, and then drive up to a box, and lower the stack onto it, makeing the stack almost infinintly taller.
Shrey
Rather than a forklift, you could always design an arm that folded down on itself to make it under the bar. Something similar to Team 67’s bot in 2001 as shown in the attached picture.
*Originally posted by SwissCommunist *
**Besides what has been already mentioned, anyone have any “secret ideas” on the 14" problem? **
If we told, they would’nt be secret, now would they?
Our team also decided to go with the short stacker. Could be interesting… Should be like a car engine, you have to remove 5 other parts to fix another one
You can make quite long arms and still fit under the bar. I think you can stack 5 high from the top using a robot that can go under. (That is a 72 inch reach) Long arms with extending pieces or an over the top grabber like the picture shown above of the 2001 game. There are ways to also drop box like robots under but i’m keeping those a secret!
*Originally posted by Ianworld *
** There are ways to also drop box like robots under but i’m keeping those a secret! **
im not trying to be mean but as it is late can you tell me what you were trying to say here im trying to think of ways to “drop box like robots under” but im not haveing any luck
i had a simple idea to allow a robot to be able to steel a stack of bins, and fit under the bar, but not at the same time. imagine that on one side of the robot there is a scissor mechanism powered by one piston. it compacts to only a few inches and can extend to several feet. now, if there were “fingers” for gripping the bins attached to each of the outer joints (the ones that dont form an X), the scissor mechanism could extend upward, while moving the fingers closer together at the same time. if designed right, it could easily fit within 14 inches and be able to clamp onto about four boxes. however there is one problem: the fingers would have to be extendable so that they dont break the size limit of the robot. to solve this, i imagined using another scissor thing, at right angles to the other one, and connected to the middle joints (the ones that do form an X), and a rod connected to the outer joints of that would move closer and farther from the plane of the orignial scissor to extend the fingers, similar to how to fingers move closer and away from eachother.
this is kind of a hard idea to grasp without a visual aid, but it just might work.
*Originally posted by MRL180YTL2002 *
**
your robot [bins in alley] bar
ramp…
[bins in alley] bar
you can’t go anywhere but over the ramp…if you can !!! **
That, as well as many other reasons is why we are not going under the bar.
Heck, we’ve even thought of dropping a couple boxes in the alley to stop people from going through.
So here’s a start/design idea (and im curious how’d youd get around this problem to):
The evil Team 783 has just dropped a box or 2 on either side of the bar. You have been blocked from going under (cause the boxes can’t be pushed under or out of the way). What do you do?
Really, you could only do 2 things:
Hope the other bar hasn’t been blocked (what if it has?)
*Originally posted by Clanat *
**It isn’t that difficult to pick up a box and move it. **
Or going over the ramp… The top of the ramp is sooo slipery no ordinary robot can block anyone up there, especially since its so wide. And I predict that so many are going under bar that the ramp is pretty much free :P.
We’re already planning on going over the ramp. The design incorporates the necessity to fight it out and shove our way over if we need too. The trick is going to be on the top of the ramp
I pesonally had a short robot idea that was shot down quick by the other member but I kind of liked it. It would involve a short robot that had a conveyor whose top was 14". It then could use pneumatics to be high enough to convey the boxes over the bar. I don’t know if it would work but it sounded plausible to me.
Nelson Green
Team 1108
Panther Robotics
Paola, KANSAS