175, 176, & 177

FIRST General Forum
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175, 176, & 177

A unique confluence of the FIRST universe.
At the Hartford District event.

175, 2002 Championship (Nationals) Chairman’s award winner and perennial contender.
176, 1999 Championship (Nationals) winner.
177 - 2 Championships, Record number of Einstein appearances.
Incredible 2007 Championship (The Maroon team, 8th seed on Newton) with 190 & 987. Einstein Field 2007 Finals Match 3
The tube in the way of the ramp climb by Children of the Swamp made the difference.

Ahhh, nostalgia, as we prepare for the latest iteration of the CMP.

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This was a pretty fun match to drive in, too bad we were not in numerical order!

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Ahh, but you were on the tower. Made this moment extra special.

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We also have 172, 173 and 178 in New England, and 174 just outside near Syracuse. The 170s are very northeast heavy.

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Very Cool!

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These are all numbers from the “Sort Alphabetically” era, so they must all be UTC sponsored teams (at that time) (I did not look them up before guessing this). Also, many of the UTC teams are from the CT area.

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In 1998, HQ decided to freeze the numbers where they were, rather than handing out new numbers every year. Numbers were assigned based off an alphanumeric sort based off of sponsor names.

This is due to the great number assignment of 1998. All of the teams between 173-181 were sponsored by various arms of UTC at the time. UTC is HQ’d in Conneticut

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I know that MAR has 222, 223, 224, and 225, though I can’t recall a match that featured three of them on one alliance.

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From stories I’ve heard, it was due to a large amount of pressure from the teams to give them an identity that was outside of Sponsor + School. This is also why it’s hard to track lineage of teams pre-1998, as ownership flowed through the lead mentor.

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FiM has 65, 66, 67, 68. And 2005 GLR featured a winning alliance of 66, 67, and 68. (TBA doesn’t show it in their bracket but the awards page lists it properly)

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I will say that of all the weird quirks in FIRST, FRC team number assignment is my favorite because I’m a shameless nerd.

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Maybe not quite the same thing, but my team (4761) is thinking it would be fun to be paired with Colonials (467) and Iron Tigers (4176) for at least one match at NE Champs this week. :slight_smile:

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I’m still waiting for the 1, 11, 111, 1111 championship alliance.

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The UTC bond between these teams goes strong, 176 winning together with both 175(2011) and 177(2006).

Some history for people who are interested:

173: United Technologies Research Center (CT)
174: UTC Carrier (NY)
175: UTC Aerospace Systems formerly know as Hamilton Sundstrand: Land, Sea and Air Division (CT)
176: UTC Aerospace Systems formerly know as Hamilton Sundstrand: Engine and Control Systems, Air Management Systems Division (CT)
177: UTC Power (CT)
178: UTC OTIS Elevators (CT)
179: UTC Pratt and Whitney Florida? (FL)
180: UTC Pratt and Whitney Florida (FL)
181: UTC Pratt and Whitney (CT)

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Some PNW love:
2903: NeoBots (WA)
2905: Sultans of Turkiye (Started by a WA team: 360)
2906: Sentinal Prime (WA)
2907: Lion Robotics (WA)
2910: Jack in the Bot (WA)

Continue that with
2923: Aggies (WA)
2926: RoboSparks (WA)
2927: Pi Rho Techs (WA)
2928: Viking Robotics (WA)
2929: Jagbots (WA)
2930: Sonic Squirrels (WA)

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PNW also has an adjacent pair, both from schools in Bellevue:

948: NRG (Newport Robotics Group)
949: Wolverine Robotics

(The next number on each side, from Florida and Nevada, appear to have gone extinct in 2002/2003.)

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You are correct.

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In 1998, 1999, 2000 I was part of Team 170 from Socorro High School close to El Paso, TX. There isn’t much I could find online about our team. I do remember we went to Houston and Epcot in 98, Kennedy space center in 99, and Houston in 2000. Sadly the team ended after I graduated. Though it did mean I was able to take the robot home. We did not have a corporate sponsor, we just made due with grants and fundraising.

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Someone told me at the event that the last time these three teams competed together as an alliance was in 2002.

That seems unusual given the number of events that they must have competed in together over the years.

Nonetheless, it could happen again this weekend.
(although I calculate less than a 2% chance of that happening in quals)

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It was at the UTC New England Regional in 2003. We were regional finalists as an alliance, it was not from qualifying (edit: this was the 2 team alliance era still), I don’t recall what seed we were.

I believe 176, 177, 178 as a qualifying team up has happened within the last 5 years though.

Also there was a long span when 175 didn’t compete at the New England/Hartford regional for the first part of the 3 team alliance era (2005-2010?), so we didn’t all play at the same event for a long period of time which is part of why this didn’t happen.