2009 5th Gear FRC Match Simulator

My guess is that its not graphics… the main difference between Lunacy and Overdrive in the game engine are the number of physics objects in play (10 for a full overdrive game vs well over 100 in Lunacy).

If you have an NVidia card, you might want to update your drivers. We are using the NVidia PhysX engine, and some of their more recent cards have hardware to accelerate physics using this engine.

On the todo list!

Just a point for everyone: The FIRST website forums are the official forums, so any feature requests/bug reports are more likely to be heard and tracked there then here.

http://forums.usfirst.org/forumdisplay.php?f=1091

This is also linked in the original post of this thread.

By the way, David Dobbs, one of the developers, posted a nice picture by picture walkthrough in how to get started using 5th Gear.

Nice job. Is that C#? It looks like it was made with some version of visual studio. Anyway, is there any way to define your own robot to get an idea of how the team bots will drive? If so, I couldn’t find it.

dp - Did you get an answer for this question? If not, ask it in the FIRST Forum. There is a link in my original post in this thread - Blake

I really want to try this program out, but the link on http://thinktank.wpi.edu/article/141 seems to be dead. I get “The requested URL /resources/263/5thGear2009v1_0.zip was not found on this server.”

Is there something I’m doing wrong, like not seeing a different link?

Fixed. Thanks for the heads up!

Ok i installed the simulator and restarted my computer then when it goes to start i get a can not start application message. then its details list this

PLATFORM VERSION INFO
Windows : 6.0.6000.0 (Win32NT)
Common Language Runtime : 2.0.50727.312
System.Deployment.dll : 2.0.50727.312 (rtmLHS.050727-3100)
mscorwks.dll : 2.0.50727.312 (rtmLHS.050727-3100)
dfdll.dll : 2.0.50727.312 (rtmLHS.050727-3100)
dfshim.dll : 2.0.50727.312 (rtmLHS.050727-3100)

SOURCES
Deployment url : file:///C:/Users/Matthew/Desktop/5thGear2009v1_0(2)/Lunacy%20Release%20Candidate%201%20-%20subversion%20rev%20149%20-%2020090122/5thGear.application

ERROR SUMMARY
Below is a summary of the errors, details of these errors are listed later in the log.
* Activation of C:\Users\Matthew\Desktop\5thGear2009v1_0(2)\Lunacy Release Candidate 1 - subversion rev 149 - 20090122\5thGear.application resulted in exception. Following failure messages were detected:
+ Exception reading manifest from file:///C:/Users/Matthew/Desktop/5thGear2009v1_0(2)/Lunacy%20Release%20Candidate%201%20-%20subversion%20rev%20149%20-%2020090122/5thGear.application: the manifest may not be valid or the file could not be opened.
+ Manifest XML signature is not valid.
+ No signature was present in the subject.

COMPONENT STORE TRANSACTION FAILURE SUMMARY
No transaction error was detected.

WARNINGS
There were no warnings during this operation.

OPERATION PROGRESS STATUS
* [2/14/2009 11:07:54 PM] : Activation of C:\Users\Matthew\Desktop\5thGear2009v1_0(2)\Lunacy Release Candidate 1 - subversion rev 149 - 20090122\5thGear.application has started.

ERROR DETAILS
Following errors were detected during this operation.
* [2/14/2009 11:07:54 PM] System.Deployment.Application.InvalidDeploymentException (ManifestParse)
- Exception reading manifest from file:///C:/Users/Matthew/Desktop/5thGear2009v1_0(2)/Lunacy%20Release%20Candidate%201%20-%20subversion%20rev%20149%20-%2020090122/5thGear.application: the manifest may not be valid or the file could not be opened.
- Source: System.Deployment
- Stack trace:
at System.Deployment.Application.ManifestReader.FromDocument(String localPath, ManifestType manifestType, Uri sourceUri)
at System.Deployment.Application.DownloadManager.DownloadDeploymentManifestDirectBypass(SubscriptionStore subStore, Uri& sourceUri, TempFile& tempFile, SubscriptionState& subState, IDownloadNotification notification, DownloadOptions options, ServerInformation& serverInformation)
at System.Deployment.Application.DownloadManager.DownloadDeploymentManifestBypass(SubscriptionStore subStore, Uri& sourceUri, TempFile& tempFile, SubscriptionState& subState, IDownloadNotification notification, DownloadOptions options)
at System.Deployment.Application.ApplicationActivator.PerformDeploymentActivation(Uri activationUri, Boolean isShortcut)
at System.Deployment.Application.ApplicationActivator.ActivateDeploymentWorker(Object state)
— Inner Exception —
System.Deployment.Application.InvalidDeploymentException (SignatureValidation)
- Manifest XML signature is not valid.
- Source: System.Deployment
- Stack trace:
at System.Deployment.Application.Manifest.AssemblyManifest.ValidateSignature(Stream s)
at System.Deployment.Application.ManifestReader.FromDocument(String localPath, ManifestType manifestType, Uri sourceUri)
— Inner Exception —
System.Security.Cryptography.CryptographicException
- No signature was present in the subject.

	- Source: System.Deployment
	- Stack trace:
		at System.Deployment.Internal.CodeSigning.SignedCmiManifest.Verify(CmiManifestVerifyFlags verifyFlags)
		at System.Deployment.Application.Manifest.AssemblyManifest.ValidateSignature(Stream s)

COMPONENT STORE TRANSACTION DETAILS
No transaction information is available.

any help would be apprcated. our schools computers are junk and i am the only one on the team who is willing to bring in their computer that can run this.

C M - I’m sending a heads-up email to the guys who developed the installer and the part of the software that would create those messages. - Blake

The guys are scratching their heads… Stay tuned

k thanks

I started to download 5th gear, but the website said to install NVIDA PhysX first. According to the NVIDA website my GeForce 7600 video card is incompatible with this software. Am I out of luck on this?

ChrisH

My laptop is below the minimum specs (it doesn’t have a video card - only integrated graphics) and it can run the simulator just fine without shadows or anti-aliasing. Since you have an actual NVIDIA card, you should be able to install the PhysX engine and run the simulator.

Correct. PhysX has two operation modes: hardware accelerated, and software emulated. Only the latest NVidia cards have the capability of running the hardware acceleration, which is probably what you read, but any system with the minimum specs to run the software emulation can install and use PhysX.

The simulator has been updated to version 1.1.

See http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=12421 for the feature list.

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So… when can we see the 2010 5th gear?

Next January! :stuck_out_tongue:

Discussion for 2010 version is here:

It is indeed on its way.