Here are the Israeli Finalists waiting for the score…the score…and the results…
Looking forward to seeing 1657, 2230 (RCA) and 2214 (Winners) and 1577 (EI) and 3075 (RAS) in Atlanta!
Just to mention, team 2230 won the Regionals AND the RCA.
And also that getting a visa to your country is a pain.
nice job guys and congrats
I wish our QF’s stateside went as late as yours did over there
8:42PM lol!
hopefully we can get a webcast next year, nothing like watching robots at five in the morning.
This has got to be my best year ever…this is the best way to finish High School, nothing can beat it!
warning: very very very very very long post. and please do bare with typos and mistaken information
On the day of the practice rounds I was competing in the first day of the Young Scientists competition in Jarusalem where me and my team mates Barak and Ofir preseneted our upgraded 2008 robot which we’ve used to help promote Science and Technology in Israel and to form a new way for our robotics class to learn about robotics, electronics, programming and all that the 2008 robot is involved with. We were immideatly transported from Jarusalem to Tel Aviv to the FRC, just in time for the practice matches. Along the way, I kept working on my Scouting Application for our team.
The size of the pit this year was atleast 2x more bigger than last year, and it was a good idea, since last year it didn’t quite fit for 36 teams, but this year’s 47 teams fitted very nicely into the huge tent (which I pray to be even bigger!!) with a lot of space between the lines of robots.
I started working with my strategy team on scouting the other robots, getting to know what they did.
Most veteran teams have worked on having a good ball output mechanisim with space for atleast 10 balls (which was effective). I’ve seen two good spiral robots (2669’s dumper and 2212’s shooter).
Rookie teams with assitance of other veteran teams have done quite well in building a good robot and a good dumping mechanisim. The rookie teams with less help didn’t do soo good and apparently due to a very low amount of resources were limited to building a flat robot, sometimes building a mechanisim to contain empty cells. One very interesting robot which I really really liked was what I and other people called “The Garbage-bot”, because it actually had a garbage as a mechanisim! they transfered the empty cells by throwing them into the bucket and then the bucket would turn on it’s axis by a motor and fall to pass the empty cell to the fueling station.
One thing that disappointed me was that when I asked rookie teams if they had an autonomous most of them said no. Some said they were working on it and i sugested those who didn’t have to ask veteran teams to help them with the autonomous.
I was ready for something like what happened that day in the practice matches: A lot of robots had communication problems.
We received a notice a week before that teams will need to pass thier robot through a WPA inspection process where they would update the robot’s firmware and check that we’re in the latest version.
Even though we’ve done that, teams had issues of connectivity.
Sadly enough, the organizers had to call all robots to the field to go through a REALLY LONG process (5 hours…) where all 47 teams were hooked up to the field and checked for problems. Those who had problem where taken care of on the spot or in the pits later on. Right after that, the practice matches continued, with all of the robots all ready for practice. There were still issues here and there, but most of them were fixed.
The issues continued on to the first day of qualifications too.
I just want to say that the people in charge of the field (Leav, Liron AKA Tottanka, Ran and other volunteers) did their jobs as best as they could, these errors were expected, even with the help from the limited National Instruments representitives (including Eran Castiel). And yet, they did as best as they could and we could deffinatly see it in the 3rd day of the competition where most matches went smoothly (except for a minor error where the main computer was restarted for some reason…yikes…). I’m sure they had a lot of pressure on them, espeacly about rullings, and that’s why they deserve the biggest of all applauses and gratitudes for their wonderful voulnteering work. THANK YOU ALL VOLUNTEERS!!! 
2nd day, first day of qualifications, wasn’t too good for us.
We were given a practice match in the morning, just before the ceremonies to make sure our robots system works(since that in the last match the day before the robot didn’t communicate with the field again).
I was given one match to coach the drive team (when the primary coach was taken to present the Chairman’s Award). The drive team was already found of how to work the robot and what to do. All I had to do was point them to where they had to go.
In that match, one of our teams did not show, so we had a vulnerable trailer on our hands. We tried to push the trailer as fast as possible, but the driver was having some difficulties with the system which in the rest of the match we saw had a delayed response. The field managment crew noticed the problem and said they would discount this match from the list of matches and that there will be a rematch. Due to the continuty of issues and loss of time, the crew had to decide to keep those matches in the list. So we won by luck, 42-40.
The rest of day, me and my friend from the Strategy team tried to keep gathering information, but towards the afternoon, each of us and some of the team members that were with us in scouting had other things to do and we were left without any match scouting through the rest of the day.
I had to leave in the middle of the event since I was asked to go to Jarusalem for the award ceremony with President Shimon Peres. From the point that I left we kept losing, eventually ending the day with 3-5-0.
BUT! Me, Barak and Ofir have won an achievment award for our project with the 2008 robot and have shaken hands with the President (who was at that morning in the opening ceremony. He even mentioned the competition in his speech in Jarusalem!). A moment after we’ve received word about our ranking, our mentor called us saying that one of our 6 FLL teams from our school has won 1st place and is going to Atlanta! It was really a wonderful thing. I even said to myself, even if we lose in the FRC (God forbid :rolleyes:), I have a reason to go to Atlanta, 'cause those guys are really important to me.
The 3rd day was the most successful day ever.
From the very first match we had that day, all of our team was cheering: “Her-tzeli-ya! Her-tzeli-ya!” and we were in extasy when we saw our robot scoring and winning the last two matches for the qualifications, brining us to 20th place. We were really hoping that our good preformance that day would atone for the previous day’s preformance and technical issues.
The truth was that we were hoping to be picked by 1574, which were the best team in the regional, but sadly they were taken by 2630. There were some not entirly good teams in the finalists (teams who mostly won due to good throwers or by other teams in their alliance) and we were hoping to avoid from being picked by them, altough we had nothing to do to stop that from happenning.
Luckly we were picked by a really good team, 1657 - Hamosad from Mevo’ot Eeron and together we’ve chosen team 2214 - Yemin Ord, to act as an average scorer/empty cell transporter/defender.
The team captains and strategy team members found a spot near the pits to sit down and talk about the upcoming quareter-finals against 1946 which were a very strong robot, which pushed alot. We decided on who was the weaker robot (1955) and that we would have 2214 pin them while us and 1657 would score on that pinned robot. We tried to gather as much details as possible: Autonomous consistency, overall preformances, weaknesses, advantages etc.
In the end, there wasn’t too much details we could’ve given to the drive team by the time the match started.
With the help of 2214 team members and a class we brought from our school, our alliance started cheering for each of our teams together. We were deffinatly heard across the stadium(“Ya-min-Orde!”/“Hertzliy-a”). For some reason the cheering for Mevo’ot Eeron didn’t quite work, but we setteled in the finals with cheering for our alliance color (sorry Mosadniks, I tried my best :o).
The first match was really really tight and we feared a loss since 2214 got cornered by 2212 and 1946, exactly near the fueling station, allowing their PS to throw about 7 balls. We had a difficult job of trying to score some more. We even tried to push the robots aside, but it didn’t work. The opposing alliance robots were in the same level as ours. In the end, we were able to win by a close call 54-52. When we heard that call, boy we were in the sky. Immidiatly after the cheering I called the strategy team to meet the drive team backstage and make it clear to them that non of our robot can be blocked or we will suffer a loss.
In the seconed quarter-finals match, we had the same thing happening, only the opposing alliance made a mistake which produced a penalty and it was obvious we were going to win.
Well, we knew what came next: Miscar.
For the past 2 years I’ve been competing in the FRC as a driver, I just waited for that opportunity to beat Miscar, what was then and still is known as the main powerhouse of Israel, in the finals.
Our driver had the challenge in front of him already in the semi-finals. I feared a loss from thier major powerness of thier robot (did i just invent a word? XD ) but I still had my hopes high.
Pinning Miscar was the main objective of us and 1657. 2214 was proven to us to be better in empty cell transfering rather than defending. So the match was more of dependent on the first Rocks we scored and then on those scored by our PSs.
In the first match, Miscar got away from us several times and they went straight to 1657 to free all their load on them, and by som sheer miracle, Miscar were missing their shots.
What was worse is that we saw that 1657 barley moved at all the whole match! They had a dead battery on the robot!!! Eventualy, towards the last minute of the game, our driver finally pinned Miscar to the side wall near an opposing outpost and he didn’t let go at all. The score was very close in our favor.
Our alliance kept cheering all the time and we were in extasy when we saw our robot pinning non-other than the powerhouse Miscar!
In the end we won again in such a close score: 64-62.
By that time, I was just in shock. “We have no idea how lucky we are” I told my alliance-mates.
The seconed match, the drive team learned and us and 1657 blocked Miscar most of the game. By sheer luck, Miscar’s alliance did a penalty which was one of the reasons why we got the ticket to the finals, for the first time ever in 2230’s history!!!
No other robot could’ve been compared to Miscar in this competition. We just knew we were going to win 1690’s alliance. Still, we made sure we made it clear to the drivers that appling the same strategy on them means they need to take in mind that 1690 has an excellent swerving system.
And indeed, in the finals, as much as we alone tried to pin 1690, they kept slipping away from our grasp. 2214 was able to pass the empty cell to their PS and to block a robot near the fueling station. The weird thing is that just before the 20 second period sound, they backed off of the opposing robot and thier PS could’nt take the shot for the super cell.
The final match of the Elimination rounds speaks for itself -
Me and the alliance memebers were screaming at our driver: "WHAT ARE YOU DOING!!! DON’T LET THEM SCORE, BLOCK EM!!!:mad: "
We thought that this match would force us into a 3rd round.
Untill a totally fatal mistake happened to 1690’s alliance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpMM8cWbByA& @2:08 - What is the color of that ball…???
We thought we won and we were all screaming and shouting and jumping and hugging eachother. It was just amazing, the unity between all the teams.
A friend from the field managment crew (Ran Mensher from 2231) keeps sending SMSs to me, wishing me luck against Miscar and against 1690. He sends to me right after the end of the game: “Have PHUN in ATL”.
We were going down to congratulate our drivers and to later receive the awards when I got this SMS from him: “Oh wait… Hold the partying”.
I was like: “Awww…that’s not to good…oh well, 3rd round I guess…I mean, I think he’s lying, but it doesn’t seem soo…”
The announcer creates a drmatic scene for all: all the drivers gather together (as seen in Jon’s post) looking at the scoredboard.
and then the announcer:
“And the winner is…with a diffrence of only 1-single-point!
and the winner is…”
Ran: “Just kidding, Ace” *
“THE RED ALLIANCE!!!”
I was soo furious at him for making me nervous, but it didn’t stop me from being soo happy. Again with the hugging and high fives and cheerings!
I’ve been spending 3 years on this project, and finally the fruits of my labor are here: We’re going to Atlanta, baby!!!
We went down to receive the awards and medals, and I meet all my FIRST friends volunteering, all of them congratulating me, Liron AKA Tottanka says: “I’ve been waiting for the moment to give you this medal”. Liron - Thank you soo much for the support, mentaly, physicaly and all - you and your team from Hadera have deffinatly given me one of the first pushes to continue with FIRST and to be even better. You and Leav are the FIRST Israel Heros! with all the honsty in heart!
We were celebrating and all after the pictures and were standing near the field to hear the rest of the winners who will be coming with us.
I knew that in Israel, at least since 2006, there were always 6 teams traveling to Atlanta. Before the annoucment of the rookie all-star I met a guy from 3075 that was the highest rookie seed, he asked me if I was the winner, and I said yes. Immidiatly after, they announced them as the rookie all-stars and I applauded with them and 1577 who helped them along the way as veterans. And I was suprised at first when I heard 1577 won the Engineering Inspiration award, but immidiatly remembered the mentored the rookie all-stars and helped with the FLL regional competition in thier school. Great job Ra’anana and its really great that we get to travel with you together to Atlanta. You’ve been a great model for us, as the Chairman’s award winners last year.
And speaking of Chairmans award, I was just in shock. I didn’t notice they started mentioning the Chairman’s Award winner, when my team mate says: “They mentioned the SOS!” and I’m like “You gotta’ be halusinating, we can’t win the chairmans” 
“And the regional Chairmans Award winners are…2230!!!”
My mouth was sooo freaking wide for a full hour! I just couldn’t process the idea that we’ve won TWO PRESTIGIOUS AWARDS! 1ST PLACE AND CHAIRMANS?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
I was told that there were several occasions that a regional winner got the RCA, but I was still in shock.
I’m looking right now at my medal I received with the titling “REGIONAL CHAIRMAN’S AWARD” and I think “it’s every FIRSTers dream, and I really wish that every team that really works hard on it gets back for all thier hard work as we did”.
Other teams who’ve worked hard on thier Chairman’s Award work and did not receive the title itself still deserve a huge recognition. Your work does not go in vien. Your efforts and dedication for spreading the word of FIRST does get into the people you help in the Chairman’s award. FIRST couldn’t have grown bigger without your endless efforts and hours of dedication beyond the robot itself.
THANK ALL YOU WHO COMPETED FOR THE CHAIRMANS AWARD!!!
There is jsut soo many people I owe a big thank you to them. They are the people who shaped my life towards this moment and have deffinatly changed me for the rest of my life.
Thank you Alisha MacIntyre, the wonderful regional Director of FIRST Israel. She is the most dedicated member of FIRST Israel, she is in every event, she takes care of almost everything…no, she actually does take care of everything! ,vists teams, keeps them updated, runs the events…she is just amazing in what she does and all of FIRST Israel owes their gratitude to her, because if it was not for her, we would not have FIRST in Israel for long!
**Thank you for for everything you do, Alisha! **A BIG ROUND OF APPLAUSE TO HER!
Thank you judges, ambassadors and volunteers for the time and dedication you give to FIRST!!! this event cannot run without you!
Thank you Leav for still being a huge FIRST addict! Your the best with the mike! Your the best with the technical stuff! You the man!!!
A big thank you to our sponsors Microsoft R&D, Hertzliya Municipality and IAI!!!
A HUGE thank you too all of our mentors, Itschak, Eitan, Ivgeny, Moshe Lichtman and the rest from Microsoft!, Thank you mentors from El-Op, from IAI.
A TRAMENDOUS thank you to our biggest mentors: Michael Luft who is with us for the second year and does an amazing work helping us with electronics, programming, saftey, team mangment and much much more! He is allways there to help us, even in his own hardest times. THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION!
Nani Rosenshtien our new mentor who has deffinatly pushed our Mechanical team to a whole new edge. His support with every mechanical aspect of the robot has given the robot it’s fine look it has! Teaching the driver teams the basic nesscary skills needed to control a robot. THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION!
Lilach and Dror Muzikant, who were there from the very begining. They’re dedication in teaching HS students the art of robotics is unbelivable. Mechanics, Electronics, Strategy, Mangement, Marketing - EVERYTHING! You’ve succeeded in bringing joy and a feeling of fulfillment.
Dror - We wish you the best of health and we hope to win in Atlanta so that we can dedicate the victory to you!
THANK YOU MUZIKANTS!
and last but not least,
THANK YOU ALL FIRSTers** AND FIRST FOR CHANGING MY LIFE!!!**
And thank YOU for reading this redicoulsly large post…or just this small text. XD
Oh yeah! 400TH POST!!!
Hehe not sheer miracle, sheer awesome use of swerve drive (and a bit of luck =P). You were amazing to play with, congrats on the RCA and we’ll see you in Atlanta 
I am happy that you think that MisCar was and still is the best team in Israel. Saddly, it is unbeliveble that your dream is to beat MisCar, who since the 2005 assisted more than 50% of the teams in Israel through many stages of their development. Many still seek our advice even when they are not Rookies anymore.
Inspite of your sad remark we will continue to play a fair game and assist as many teams we can as we did this year assisting 6 rookie teams and assist enourmous amount of others.
Good luck at the competition, you will need it, if you want to beat MisCar you will need to get the Newton Finalist Award - this is the current title MisCar holds!!!
Yaron
THANK ALL YOU WHO worked hard to give the Israelis Team the chance to give the best what they can do for them self’s and for their community.
Tanks to Jon for your nice job during all the Tel Aviv Regional 2009.
We invite team 236 to visit us in Tamra.
Thank you judges, ambassadors and volunteers for the time and dedication you give to FIRST!!! this event cannot run without you!
Thanks for the Sponsors for all Teams, Who work hard with there Teams.
Nice job don Alisha and Asaf
Monitor team 1946
Mohamed
Yaron,
You guys should really see what Nir says here as a complimant… Understand that his, and i may say that every Israeli teams sign of success will be to beat MisCar. The face that this is what he is excited about doesn’t mean that he dislikes your team or things anything bad about it, it just means that he truely believes he did well, with the sign of doing well is beating MisCar. Same as in any other sports any team aspires to beat the best, same is in FIRST. If a second league soccer team from Israel were to beat Barcelona FC, they would have been excited about it not because they hate Barcelona, but because they are excited to beat the best. Beating the best means you are one of the best, that’s it. There is no dislikeness towards MisCar here, i would even say that there is great honour shown to your team in this post, and i would have been glad if those words were sayd about my team.
We don’t take kindly to Catalonians round here, boy.
In all seriousness though, yes, he meant that he was excited to beat you because you are repeat champions here, not because we dislike you or anything.
I don’t understand why my remark was unbelivable and sad. 
Surley, like the others said, you’ve misinterpeted my words.
Evey team needs a certain bar to hope to reach to. Whether it be to just win the Championship, or to win Atlanta, or Chairmans, or just to compete in the competition or even simpler stuff.
When I first saw you guys in 2007 I was impressed you could build a very powerful bot and I realized that our design for our 2007 robot was not good enough for that year’s game (being that we only took tubes from the chute, and not from the floor like everyone did).
Because I saw you guys win with an excellent robot,** I wanted to build a robot as good as yours in the following years**. My goal was to win the Regional and go to Atlanta. I realized you guys are serial champions in Israel and it would probablly mean that I would be seeing you in the finals in the following year, so my goal was actually to beat Miscar, so I could say “my bot is good enough to win the regional”. Each year, you pretty much define the bar of what an excellent bot is for the Israeli regional. You haven’t failed us since 2007.
My statment in bolds just shows how you’ve influenced on me and probablly on other Israeli or other country FIRST teams. You are a role model to other teams in the part of Team Building (Mangement), Project Funding (sponsers) and a succesful design of a robot.
Now I realise that my wording was probablly too extreme. It wasn’t to defeat, or to beat, because there is no violence or…anything like that. I’ve learned from friends that everyone in FIRST is a winner, just by building a robot in 6 weeks, and as a high school student.
So there is only to WIN Miscar.
But you are right, Yaron. We’ve got an even tougher title to achieve which is the Division Finalists. Kudos for reaching that far and we hope that in future years you might even reach higher!
We’ll do our best and represnt our country in the best way we can. 
First, good luck at Atlanta, enjoy, learn a lot, and represent Israel as we did for 4 years with great gracious professionalism- meaning playing fair game.
What I meant that what differ FIRST then other competitive sports is the friendship, and assistance teams might have one towards the others. Certainly, unlike other sports, you play with a different team each match and play against different teams the following match. For MisCar, the goal was always to achieve FIRST’s higher standards and fulfill all the sub-tasks of the game, or of the competition. We design our robot to accomplish the game goals and not accomplishment of defeating others.
For us, playing smartly is not driving a bot with rover wheels which lost their original shape and characters because someone in Israel recommended to use floor material that we knew will destroy the nature of the game.
Each year we rebuild our team on hard work, longer design then any other team, because of that particular reason. Instead of beating others we want to solve the problem of the game sophistically, to achieve the mission, and play it exactly as we think Dean’s team thought.
Some think that we do that by having engineers do the work for us. Those who really know us, and there are over 25 teams in Israel this year that visited our workshop, saw some of our internal thinking processes and surely know that our students design everything in our robot, of course with the guidance of two teachers and two - four parent mentors. Our students, build almost every solution they think of during the first four weeks as prototypes from LEGO, cart board, wood, junk and just raw metal, parallel to design via th AutoDesk Inventor the solutions we eventually elect for each sub-system.
I truely believe that I personally explained this strategy to at least 10 rookies teams during the last five years. I did it not to defeat them but to build more teams who play a fair game, a reasonable game, to fulfill a dream is to solve the game sub missions = gracious professionalism.
And if you are from Tichon Handasaim Herzelia you should know this because in 99% of the matches I have watched you during the last 2 years your team played a fair game!!!
Again, good luck,
Yaron,
FRC Senior Mentor since 2008.
Senior mentor at 1574 since 2006,
Head Mentor of 2630 during 2009 season,
The founder and Head mentor of 2214 for the 2007-8 seasons.
ASSIST: Advancing Skills Smartly In Science & TechnologyCongratulations Dorin Shani
Very special congratulations to Dorin Shani, the mentor for the Handesayim Herzelia FLL team - She won the Outstanding Young Mentor Award in FLL!!!
Mohamed Mentor FRC 1946
Congratulations to our friends team 336 won the Championship Chairman’s Award!
Mohamed Mentor FRC 1946
Personally, as a rookie, FRC2009, and FIRST in general, was an amazing experience from day 1. I experienced so many things connected to building a robot. It wasn’t easy also cause we needed to overcome our lack of mentors & sponsors, but we made it somehow in the end, including staying almost 72 hours straight in school. We knew that our bot won’t be the best and we didn’t expect much so we had a lot of laughs during the competition (but we were concerned about our bot and treated it like family, don’t you think we disrespected FIRST for a second even!) and didn’t take our loses too badly (most of times it happened cause of mysterious connectivity problems with the field or event management or just problems that no one, and i mean NO ONE, understood why they are happening). (3-7-0) in the end.
I especially remember the moment when all the crowd & teams on field realized that Miscar is not going to be in finals. Everybody screamed like crazy, it was insane, I’ve never felt a more thundering feeling in my body, it was sensational.
In the end we even won the Rookie Inspiration Award and we were happy like we won the Chairman’s or something XD.
We got so inspired from this event and it really pumped our FIRST spirit for the next season. We are learning from our mistakes and hope to be a real challenge to others next year :]
We would like to thank all the people who organized the event, Alisha, volunteers and everybody in FIRST Israel and others (Jon, Chris…).
Also, why did nobody mention team presenter Michell from NASA?! She was amazing, and too pretty for humankind! One of my high-lights in the competition was shking hands with her! I even blushed! Our team is totally in love with her! Inbar from our team even made a clip about her, you can find in YouTube.
We would also like to thank all the teams that helped us, mentors and sub mentors, people from our school, etc. The complete list is in our site: www.KOB.ort.org.il
Dear Yaron,
I think you are taking this too personally. Nobody hates Miscar, nobody wants your bad, nobody cheats just to win or something. You may be the best team in Israel but you are not the only team here. We can’t thank you enough for your help this season. You are the role model for every team in Israel and considered the perfect one. You are so awesome that our team talks about you like GODS ("oh no, coffee spilled… this would have never happened in Misgav! XD). I personally think you are just disappointed from your not-going-to-Atlanta for the first time. There is no question that your team works the hardest, and makes the best robots there are. BUT as you saw this year - it’s not enough to build a good robot. You can’t win without co-operation with your alliance members, strategy and even luck. You definitely had the best bot but you lost because of your arrogance, lack of team spirit (your crowd cheered only when you were on the field or winning ) and lack of counter-tactic in case SOMEBODY understands your bot is useless when pinned to a corner (like we did but couldn’t do nothing cause of our endless technical problems). Efficiency is not all, you know.
Every alliance wants to beat the other one, no matter who is on it. An alliance with 1574 in it is a huge challenge to overcome and winning a match against you guys is an achievement by itself. We can say that about other teams also, but you are the main “threat” if you are in a game.
It’s in everybody’s interest to keep the competition fair to all, we are all friends here and there are no enemies.
I hope you’ll keep up the good work and keep helping other teams as you did so far. I wish you better luck next season and hope that you’ll even take first place in Atlanta someday - you are on the right track!
See you all in the off-season matches! if there are any XD.
PS: sorry for the length of this post :rolleyes:
Nice post, i would just like to comment about a couple of things i didn’t like in it.
A) who says 1574 is working the ‘hardest’? I don’t know who is working the hardest and neither do you. Everybody is working as hard as they can. There is no question though, that 1574 is working very hard and very efficiently (as evidenced by both their robot and their entrepreneurship award).
B) How exactly does a crowd that cheers for it’s own team is arrogant? I wouldn’t expect anything else from a crowd… It’s their team and that’s what they should root for, nothing even slightly wrong with that. It’s not like they were boo-ing everyone else.
C) There will be an off season, and it will even be close to your home. Stay updated.
I would like to clarify the issues above:
A) “Working Hard” is subjective and some teams can’t work as hard as they might have wanted, because of reasons not in their power. I think everyone worked hard and there is no doubt 1574 is one of the most efficient teams and many teams have already seen how much thought goes in every detail in their bots. They are not the only ones to do so, but we all agree they are one of the best in knowing how to do the process of building right.
B) The only reason I mentioned arrogance is because Yaron wrote ALL his titles, like it’s in purpose to prove that because of them - he knows best. He should really put them all in his Signature, if he wants us to know that so much. About the crowd: I was sitting close to them, I know how they were. Misgav’s crowd came to see their team win the competition again, like it’s an obvious thing. They cheered only when the Miscar was on field or when they got a good dumping, they were silent the whole other time. You can’t say that it was good as 2212’s or 2630’s (or others that i don’t remember) was. They cheered 24/7, no matter who was on the field and no matter if their teams were winning or losing. That’s a real FIRST team spirit!
C) Are we going to have an off-season in Kiryat-Yam? P: I sure hope so! I also hope that we will be able to fix our bot till then XD