The answer to Q138 in Q&A defines consequential as “the action has an effect on the outcome of a match”. I would say that preventing a team from lining up to score could fall under that category and should be specifically pointed out to a referee if it happens to you.
RyanN:
Was anyone told what happened during the Semi-Finals and the Finals with field communication?
Landon was correct about 2992 losing communication. It wasn’t apparent by FMS lights or the log. Their log file was constant throughout the match when I checked it.
They came running to our pit infuriated saying that the robot wasn’t driving correctly and that they lost communication. I believe what they were saying is that much of the movement that can be seen in the video here , was not of their control. As a robot that has driven 10 qualification matches and 2 finals matches, I believe they probably know how to drive their robot. What they’re doing here is just moving forward and backward half of the match.
After I viewed their log file, I thought it might have been a battery issue (I didn’t watch the match. I was in the pit cleaning and packing). Their voltage drooped to about 7V at some points of the match. After watching the video, I can see they had plenty of power to rush across the field after regaining control to hang for 10 points. I have no idea what’s going on here.
The other thing that is concerning is that after this match, I took the robot to the practice field to work on vision. We were done at this point and it was something I have been wanting to get working. Well, while practicing, one of the FIRST volunteers (Don) came up to me and said that they (FIRST ) thinks we have been “hacked” (His word, not mine). I told him that we didn’t have any problems that match (At least Landon or our other driver, Michael said anything to me about it). I told them that our partners, The S.S. Prometheus (2992) said they had communication issues. I immediately brought the robot back to our pit and scoured the pits for their main team mentor… I can’t remember his name, but I know he’s on these forums. After I found him, we found Don again. Don, 2992, and I then proceeded to walk to the FTA table where we talked to Scott Marshall.
To give some background of 364 and Scott Marshall… we don’t get along well. I don’t know what grudge he has against our team, but he snapped on one of our students at Jump Start Build when that student asked how it was going this year. He started yelling and rambling on about how the problems last year are over with, the problem was with our robot, it wasn’t FMS , yada yada… The student didn’t say anything about our problems last year. I hate ratting on a guy, but this needs to come out. His prejudice against our team has been present since 2007, when Bayou began, when I was on the team, and when I had to go through robot inspection with him.
As soon as we walked up (me being in an Orange Fusion shirt), he got all snappy again and said it wasn’t FMS problems and told us to leave. That was it… At this point I knew I wasn’t going to get to the bottom of this with Scott.
So what I want to know is who told Don that we had been hacked, and whether or not our alliance was hacked.
I for one know that to hear something like that is not a good thing to hear.FIRST is about “Gracious Professionalism”. I don’t know if this a hoax, lie, or something that is actually true, but this should never happen, and ‘hacking’ is not gracious or professional. Kids and mentors alike work very, very hard on the robot and to lose a match to ‘hacking’ is just disgusting.
Like I said, who knows. 364 isn’t pointing fingers. But we still want to know what’s going on.
Does anyone have the alliance selection results in order for Bayou (ie Alliance Captain, First pick, Second pick)?
I’m making this from blue alliance data so someone please correct me if I’m wrong.
3753 -> 118 -> 4589
155 -> 1421 -> 3039
3606* -> 1927 -> 3991
3847 -> 233 -> 1912
364 -> 2992 -> 3616
1477 -> 456 ->442
3410 -> 2352 -> 1649
2080 -> 3937 -> 3164
I’m not 100% sure about the order of the two #8 selections but I think that’s right.
Thank you, Wendy and Team 1912!