2601 bumper at tech valley finals

Why wasn’t the 2601 robot stopped when their bumper was flailing in the wind. I’ve seen much more over less?

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This also happened to 2601 in quals match 22 and they were not disabled then. It appears the Tech Valley referees just didn’t feel like enforcing G104.

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Or–for whatever reason–determined that the level of bumper-off-ness did not rise to one of the triggers of G104.

Which as I recall are: segment completely detached, color or number indeterminate, or (and I think I may be mixing in a previous year here) a Frame Perimeter corner exposed.

It’s also probable that the team is having strong discussions with the LRI and/or HR about “fix this”…

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G104 *Keep your BUMPERS together. BUMPERS may not fail such that a segment completely 

detaches, any side of a ROBOT’S FRAME PERIMETER is exposed, or the team number or 

ALLIANCE color are indeterminate.

I watched both matches. The “ROBOT’S FRAME PERIMETER” was very visibly exposed in both of them. They either chose not to enforce it, do not understand the rule, or need to get their eyes checked.

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Sounds like a blown call, then.

Not having seen the matches (might take a look when I get home from work), the only possible other call would be–and this is 100% hypothetical, you understand–that the team was mostly actively moving to keep the bumper over the exposed side, so some grace. If it were an offseason, I could see that being the case. Regular season, not so much but plausible.

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You can have exposed frame perimeter if you use corner bumpers, right? So I think the language means the entire side is exposed.
Possible 16" extension violation?
Possible bumper articulation violation?
Someone should have definitely given the team a warning and a RI should have checked in on them after quals22

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Looks like it was a missed call but in both situations it doesn’t seem like this no call changed the match results at least.

Match 22 was their red bumpers and finals 1 was their blue. As for the corner bumper part, after the segment became detached, they no longer had a bumper within 6in of the corner of their frame.

Also, Congrats to them, 5484 and 2614 on their win!

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It’s possible they chose not to, considering they also let it slide in 2019

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That one… I’d have probably shut down if it were me. Definitely in the regular season, possibly in the offseason.

What is the definition of “side” in the context of “any side of a ROBOT’s FRAME PERIMETER is exposed”? In 2601’s case, half of the side in question remained properly covered by their other bumper, so an argument could be made that none of the G104 failure criteria identified by Brian above (complete detachment, exposed side, or indeterminate alliance color) were met.

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