A question about Eminem

I was just wondering if it is true that Eminem might win a Nobel Prize in Poetry. Does anyone know?

*Originally posted by robot180 *
**I was just wondering if it is true that Eminem might win a Nobel Prize in Poetry. Does anyone know? **

Nominees for the Nobel Prize never learn of their nomination - unless they win, of course.

So, given that, I’d argue that’s about as likely as me winning the Peace Prize :slight_smile:

I saw something about it on CNN.

Story here.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he did win… There’s skill there.

I agree. He is a genius, to be able to come up with all that stuff off the top of his head. There is no way I could do it.

I would hate to see him get it… There are many other better people that deserve it…

he sucks, imho

I merely find him psychotic.

I think that if someone could come up with lines that rhyme like that, they should get an award for it, whether it is rap or written poetry, because you could take any great poet and have them battle with Eminem and they would never win. Eminem can just come up with that stuff so easily. He is a genius. Even if people don’t like the things he talks about, they still have to agree that he is a great poet.

Poetry is not just about rhyme.

*Originally posted by Pin Man *
**I would hate to see him get it… There are many other better people that deserve it… **

By Greg Perkins
he sucks, imho

By Alaina
I merely find him psychotic.

By srjjs
Poetry is not just about rhyme.

I agree w/ all four of these people.

I really don’t like what Eminem stands for nor for the message that he sends out. However, he does have skill with words - I must give him that. If you were to look at the lyrics to Lose Yourself, there’s no denying his skill in poetry.

Regardless, despite how much talent as he has in terms of rhyme and poetry, I would be very disappointed if he were to win the Nobel Prize - what he represents and the message that he sends out should exclude him from such a prestigious award.

*Originally posted by Pin Man *
**I would hate to see him get it… There are many other better people that deserve it… **

Such as?

*Originally posted by M. Krass *
**Such as? **

Like people who don’t hate against many many people…not trying to be a “meany” to say the least, but come’on, he talks about killing his mom, how he hates gays, etc…

*Originally posted by Raven_Writer *
**Like people who don’t hate against many many people…not trying to be a “meany” to say the least, but come’on, he talks about killing his mom, how he hates gays, etc… **

So, in other words, someone’s work is only worthy of attention and recognition when it is popular, uncontroversial, and saccharine?

So, again, such as? Maybe *NSync is a better choice. . . or, whoever it is that writes their lyrics? They sure are popular and happy and sweet.

The majority is often the worst judge of what is good, right, or fair.

Ok, assume for a moment that Eminem is a good poet. Even so, rewarding hate will only promote more of the same. Sure, he can speak his mind, but if it’s offensive, why expect everyone to applaud him for it?

*Originally posted by srjjs *
**Ok, assume for a moment that Eminem is a good poet. Even so, rewarding hate will only promote more of the same. Sure, he can speak his mind, but if it’s offensive, why expect everyone to applaud him for it? **

While you may find it offensive, you are not representative of everyone.

Because you may feel that misogyny and homophobia are bad things doesn’t mean that they are.

Everything is relative. You’re writing from a perspective that assumes Eminem is not talented because he chooses to express ideas and opinions that you may not agree with. You’re discounting and confusing talent with expression, I think.

I don’t know that Eminem is the best candidate for such an award as I’m not really aware of what’s happening in poetry. However, I wouldn’t argue that he’s among the most skilled rappers I’ve ever seen where both lyrics and pacing are concerned – message aside.

*Originally posted by M. Krass *
**While you may find it offensive, you are not representative of everyone.

Because you may feel that misogyny and homophobia are bad things doesn’t mean that they are.

Everything is relative. You’re writing from a perspective that assumes Eminem is not talented because he chooses to express ideas and opinions that you may not agree with. You’re discounting and confusing talent with expression, I think.

I don’t know that Eminem is the best candidate for such an award as I’m not really aware of what’s happening in poetry. However, I wouldn’t argue that he’s among the most skilled rappers I’ve ever seen where both lyrics and pacing are concerned – message aside. **

Ok, this is just strange for the least…rap and poetry is not the same. Rap has music, beats, etc… poetry is like free-write. No music, beats, etc…

*Originally posted by Raven_Writer *
**Ok, this is just strange for the least…rap and poetry is not the same. Rap has music, beats, etc… poetry is like free-write. No music, beats, etc… **

Poetry is defined by dictionary.com as;

  • A piece of literature written in meter; verse.
  • The art of apprehending and interpreting ideas by the faculty of imagination; the art of idealizing in thought and in expression.
  • Imaginative language or composition, whether expressed rhythmically or in prose. Specifically: Metrical composition; verse; rhyme; poems collectively; as, heroic poetry; dramatic poetry; lyric or Pindaric poetry.

etc.

Again, I’m not clear on the distinction that makes the lyrics of a song different from the words of a poem? Does reading them to music disqualify them? It doesn’t seem to me like it would. Really, that seems akin to saying that things don’t rhyme aren’t really poetry, either. That’s not true, is it?