Aerial Assist Strategy

Hey Chief Delphi,
Our team is wondering what other teams’ strategies are for Aerial Assist. The game this year requires a lot of cooperation, and knowing strategies that can be compatible with others can help teams be more successful in their competitions.

Three Robots Per Alliance

  1. Inbounds from human player and passes to robot 2. Also can play defense if needed.

  2. Retrieves from #1 and tosses over truss. Can also high score if needed.

3 Catches ball from #2 and scores into high goal with a large “sweet spot”

In Autonomus

#3 scores 2 balls in auto, their ball and #1 ball
#1 scores 1 ball

Must have great drivetrain!

One my team was looking at was just to outscore the other alliance in autonomous then just send two robots two defend the other team while one robot just takes the ball and shoot into high goal making cycles solo. I think this strategy could easily win a lot of qualification matches, maybe not elims. We probably won’t even attempt this strategy though cause it kinda takes the “assist” out of aerial assist.

Flexibility and control.

We planned our robot’s roles with different partners and prioritized based on that. Key was being able to make quick assists and play around our alliance partners’ robots-- being able to receive easily from human player, being able to transfer the ball quickly and in a controlled manner.

Overall strategy: Win.

It may win a lot of matches, but may not seed you as high as you like, since the second ranking criterion is cumulative assist points.

There is that, but we considered that less of an issue since you’ll win almost all of your matches. Definitely enough to get you in the top ten. Then again your team may go to ‘harder’ regionals than we do so it may not be that viable an option for every regional. Even so, with experience from the regionals we go to, being 8-2 is enough to get you in the top 6.

We are going to try to focus on defense and feeding quickly, this way we do rely on our partners quite heavily, but all that matters is that you are viable in eliminations to be picked as a partner. We figured since there are 49 teams at our regional, and 36 go to eliminations, we could do better if we just focused on our one thing or two things and did them well.

How do you come up with that number?

People are thinking that alliances are always 4 teams.

People are thinking that alliances are always 4 teams.

8 x 4 = 36??

Alliances are only 4 teams at Championship.

Regional competitions are still setup with the 3-team alliances in eliminations. It’s only at championships that elimination alliances will have 4 teams.

I think that what he is trying to say here is that 8x4 is not 36, but 32.

I think that what he is trying to say here is that 8x4 is not 36, but 32.


So, Alan’s question still stands… How do you come up with 36 teams going to elims???

I’m thinking of making a playbook like for basketball or football with set plays for the different types of alliance set ups. I’m a visual learner so having drawing of what each robot should do during the match I feel would make it easier for each team to know and see before the match. The ideal strategy to me is what Justin said at first but with a slight change:

I also would have robot 1 toss it over the truss and have robot 2 or 3 catch it. I feel having robots in your scoring zone helps minimize defense on your primary scorer as one can block/screen/pick the defense to give space for the scorer to score.

Of course if the scorer can score with little to no problem with the defense on them, then yes, having a 2nd robot playing defense is definitely a better option.

Wow…not at ours. 8-2 *may *get you in the top 15…top 6? For ours that’s more like 9-1 minimum…

8-2 is a very good record and should get you in the top 8 at just about any regional. I challenge you to find one where it didn’t get you in the top 12 or so (still a likely captain)…

For example at Lone Star where you compete 8-2 would have ranked you 5th last year.
reference: rankings

Indeed. Here are the records of the 6th seeds at Lone Start since 2007.
2013: 7-2-1
2012: 7-3
2011: 8-2
2010: Win/Loss not recorded
2009: 6-1
2008: 6-3-1
2007: 7-2

Here are the seeding results from the Lone Star Regional last year:

rank    team     QS      AP      CP      TP      Record  DQ      Played
1	118	 18.00	 228.00	 110.00	 397.00	 9-1-0	 0	 10
2	1477	 18.00	 178.00	 160.00	 237.00	 9-1-0	 0	 10
3	57	 18.00	 134.00	 200.00	 246.00	 9-1-0	 0	 10
4	148	 16.00	 168.00	 140.00	 323.00	 8-2-0	 0	 10
5	624	 16.00	 158.00	 160.00	 269.00	 8-2-0	 0	 10
6	4587	 15.00	 90.00	 230.00	 102.00	 7-2-1	 0	 10
7	3741	 14.00	 196.00	 60.00	 177.00	 7-3-0	 0	 10
8	4328	 14.00	 162.00	 100.00	 233.00	 7-3-0	 0	 10
9	231	 14.00	 152.00	 140.00	 292.00	 7-3-0	 0	 10
10	704	 14.00	 142.00	 140.00	 197.00	 7-3-0	 0	 10
11	3961	 14.00	 102.00	 110.00	 180.00	 7-3-0	 0	 10
12	441	 14.00	 94.00	 80.00	 169.00	 7-3-0	 0	 10
13	2582	 14.00	 86.00	 340.00	 99.00	 7-3-0	 0	 10
14	2438	 14.00	 74.00	 140.00	 153.00	 7-3-0	 0	 10
15	2587	 12.00	 206.00	 90.00	 375.00	 6-4-0	 0	 10

Lone Star certainly had some ridiculously good teams attending, but even 624 and 148 only went 8-2. Were you referring to a different regional? TBA says your team only attended this one. Or perhaps were you referring to 2012, which does not correlate to this year because the coopertition bridge played some havoc with the seeding.

EDIT: avoiding double post

Our strategy is to be amazing. I’ve already said too much:yikes: