Animation Music

Technical 3D Animation and Competition
#4

If you are looking at a professional product I HIGHLY HIGHLY suggest Propellerheads Reason 2.0. I might have spelt that wrong but the address should be www.propellerheads.se. It is the greatest synth music creation software ever. I can send you a couple of samples that I have and it actually comes with loads of them too so learning isn’t much of a problem. The best part is you don’t have to be a musician which I am DEFINATELY not to create good quality music. Plus the file sizes are less than 100k most of the time so size and computer performance is not a problem.

If you are looking for something more catered to only loops, Acid Pro is a great solution. That is what we used for our animation last year. We used it for not only music but also sound effects and dialogue. You can get suprisingly accurite.

Now if you are looking for something to make you music really freaking quickly without you learning anything, and this is a product I only endorse for those of you that are basically thinking of no sound as your only option, I suggest Mix Man Studio. It’s not by any means a great piece of software but you can get some really decent music in no time at all. If my ears served me correctly, a couple teams last year used this program. It can actually get pretty fun but once again it is only for quick dirty music, nothing professional.

#5

The music we used last year was an original compostion by the head adult instructor’s college buddy. He played a pipe organ in a local catholic church

#6

What are the limits to using music in the animations? Sorry to ask you this but I’m new in the Robotics Competition this year.

#7

Last year (I’m not positive but almost sure), the whole Copyright thing was an issue, but just as long as you acknowledged the Artist and all that good stuff in your credits, you wouldn’t violate any laws.

#8

Thanks, that’s all I needed to know.

#9

animation music goes like this: you cant use copyrighted music period.

chairman’s award music goes like this: you can use any music as long as it is credited.

ok!

#10

Are you sure about this??? I’d like to see it on paper, I don’t have a copy of the animation rules section.

#11

I used the sound sample from the Sound Forge software 5.0.
It worked OK.

#12

*Originally posted by Ricksta121 *
** you cant use copyrighted music period. **

I don’t think you’re right on this, but I have no proof.

#13

Here’s what I think will happen…

I know that copyrighted music you needed to have some kind of waiver from the record company… but that means nothing this year. Autodesk changed the rules and requirements quite alot from the year before and I believe that will hold true this year as well. Therefore our team is making our own music because we believe that copyrighted music will be banned alltogether next year. This is just our idea as to what will happen… but for sure we know nothing until autodesk gives us the rules.

#14

First seems spooked by the idea of using any copyrighted material. Somebody has probably been on the business end of a lawsuit(or they work for Kinkos:rolleyes: ).

#15

Well, the rules are out, and read through them but didn’t see anything regarding music. The update doesn’t have an index so I haven’t found anything about it in there either. Anyone know what’s going on with it? I’d suspect we still can’t use coyprighted material.

#16

*Originally posted by Ricksta121 *
**animation music goes like this: you cant use copyrighted music period.
ok! **

Im not positive that is completely true… Im being informed from our student animation lead that you can use copyrited music as long as you get permission from the artist.

#17

Here’s a quote cited from the rulebook via Joe Ross that I dug up from this old thread:

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2930&highlight=animation+music

quote:

Note: Be aware that certain images and music may be copyrighted and you may not be free to
incorporate them into your Entry without special permission or fees. This includes obvious
things such as clips from popular songs, but could include less obvious things closely aligned to
a particular company or individual. Our judges watch and listen closely for any possible
copyright infringements. If you have any questions about what you can and cannot include,
check with your team corporate sponsor. Also review the language in the “Autodesk Archive
Consent and Release Authorization Form” attached to these Guidelines.

I knew I remembered reading about this before, I hope this clears it up.

#18

Copyright laws are ALWAYS in effect, whether they are specifically included in the Autodesk documentation or not. Copyright restrictions are part of a Federal statute, and must always be honored. Use of any copyrighted materials, for any purpose, requires the permission of the copyright holder unless the use falls under one of the permitted exemptions, such as for personal use (use in a FIRST competition video is NOT considered “personal use”).

-dave

#19

I agree completely with Dave on this one.

#20

okay…but last year there were some killer animations…and we timed them and they were under 30 seconds and were not in the top 50. One thing they all had in common…copyrighted music. Now most of the teams included the reference to the music in the credits…but…the judges didn’t see the credits.

I guess it’s a gamble if you really want to use copyrighted music

#21

*Originally posted by TEAM_74 *
**okay…but last year there were some killer animations…and we timed them and they were under 30 seconds and were not in the top 50. One thing they all had in common…copyrighted music. Now most of the teams included the reference to the music in the credits…but…the judges didn’t see the credits.

I guess it’s a gamble if you really want to use copyrighted music **

I saw one team that was a finalist that use The Eurythmics Here Comes the Rain Again in their animation. So I don’t know how that slipped past FIRST.

#22

*Originally posted by Koko Ed *
**I saw one team that was a finalist that use The Eurythmics Here Comes the Rain Again in their animation. So I don’t know how that slipped past FIRST. **

Was it a MIDI?

MIDI’s are NOT copyrighted

#23

*Originally posted by D.J. Fluck *
**Was it a MIDI?

MIDI’s are NOT copyrighted **

It doesn’t matter what content it was presented in.
It was realesed on an album by a major label (which I have).
Therefore it has to be copyrighted. I don’t think what form it was presented matters. Substance over style.