Archimedes Alliance Predictions

lemme hear em folks, especially now that we’re close to final rankings

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This could be pretty interesting.

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why predict if its gonna happen so soon? and we might also end up influencing their picks. but either way its gonna be wild

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I can’t wait 16 hours

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At this point, if you’re 2056 it’s difficult to not pick 118. You absolutely cannot afford to pick someone else and risk having another alliance strong enough to beat you in the finals. That being said, we could still see some scary combos with teams like 1574 and 1619 pretty deep in the rankings. I think the biggest question is with 2607. They’ve put up an impressive showing thus far, but I’m curious if it’ll be enough to convince a team like 254 or 111 to accept their invite instead of risking it as their own captain. Will be fascinating to watch.

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Would love to see OP with the Poofs and Citrus Circuts with Simbotics at an Einstein final. The ultimate “streak” swap.

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You don’t mess around with game theory at champs, you are going to need to beat a bunch of great alliances to win it all, you pick the best robot first whoever that is.

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Poofs out of Einstein???

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I’m hoping 5232, the ARC team competing on that field gets picked. They’re a good cone robot, but have an amazing ability to enable 3 robot balances at the end of matches. If scouters are paying attention they’ll get picked as a second or third pick.

I’m pretty confident that over on Milstein the Iron Mosquitos (another ARC member) will get picked by someone capable of supercharging the grid. Everyone by now over there has seen the way they can move cubes like a Jack Russell Terrier on Red Bull. They can pretty much supercharge the hybrid nodes by themselves. Pair them with robots that can score higher in the grid and they’re a key robot.

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Is there any reason OP wouldn’t be picking poofs with their first pick? From the outside, the Poofs seem like the best team outside of the OP.

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In all seriousness though, they’re one of the best robots in the division. I watched the 2056 vs 254 game and both are so stupidly fast they could probably fill the grid on their own without the help of the 3rd robot. If I were 2056, I’d probably pick them.

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I think the reasoning people are giving is that if 2056 picks 254, 118 (rank 2) could pick another very good team and craete a dangerous alliance. Just looking at stats from the outside it looks like 2056 and 254 would beat anyone else so long as they get a good 3rd/4th team.

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I should add here, that the key is going to be the second and third picks. I’ve seen way too many “elite” two robot alliances with the third and fourth picks as an afterthought get destroyed in playoffs by three team alliances that play as a cohesive unit. There are enough great robots on Archimedes that no pair of robots is enough.

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Fair enough I guess. Just going by the rankings and EPA, this would be the first scenario:
2056 + 254
118 + 111
2607 + 2468

And here’s the second scenario:
2056 + 118
2607 + 254
111 + 2468

To me, the first scenario still seems more comfortable for 2056.

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Are these intentionally ignoring 6036? I also think there’s a big chance 254 would decline 2607 in the second scenario and you would have 254/111 or 254/6036.

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my prediction is
2056+254
118+111
2607+6036
624+2468

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I can’t imagine Einstein this year without 2056 AND 254. Both incredible bots.

Also the genuinely possible 2056/254/XXXX vs 1678/1114/YYYY would confirm it’s all scripted /j

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Did you dig this out of your 2014 Waterloo Regional Memes folder?

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I see 2056/254 then 118/111, but I feel 111 might deny.

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