*Originally posted by sanddrag *
**I think anything beyone 2 Drills and 2 Chias is overkill and you’re current draw will go through the roof and the efficiency will go down through the floor.
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Actually, as you add more motors to a job, the workload each motor sees is reduced, and they draw less current.
*Originally posted by M. Krass *
**Actually, as you add more motors to a job, the workload each motor sees is reduced, and they draw less current. **
:o Never thought of it like that. I suppose it would really depend on how the system is loaded.
for the teams that use the drill/atwood drive configuration, do you team up the motors for two to a side, or do you put one on each wheel?
you would have to team them… would be a programinig nightmare to get two different motors to go the same speed on each side of the bot
~Pyro
you wouldn’t do it in programming, you could do it in gear ratios.
we have 2 on each side, and used gear ratios
Well the new drill motors are for lazy ppl, since they already come with premade mounts
We aren’t lazy!
for the most part…
Anyway, we beleive that we should use ther basic mounts (not exactly as they used them, but close) to give time for driver practice and software practice before the regionals:D
*Originally posted by Solace *
**you wouldn’t do it in programming, you could do it in gear ratios. **
Its a programming nightmare either way, you just don’t know how bad it is when they are coupled 
And your efficiency does drop dramatically when coupling motors- they fight eachother - but who cares in a 2 min match?
Greg
i think you misunderstood. I didn’t mean putting a drill and a atwood together on a single drive train, i meant having each seperate wheel controlled by a seperate (singular) motor.
That’s us, except we went with the Fisher Price because they were smaller and coupled better (easier i guess) with the drills. We’re building our own transmissions for the first time and lemme tell you, it’s a BLAST!! Hopefully it’ll work out…we’ll see at San Jose!
lauren
*Originally posted by GregT *
**Its a programming nightmare either way, you just don’t know how bad it is when they are coupledAnd your efficiency does drop dramatically when coupling motors- they fight eachother - but who cares in a 2 min match?
Greg **
They don’t fight each other if you gear them to the same rpm. The efficiency doesn’t drop that much as long as you gear for the “sweet spot” in each of the motor curves.
As for programming goes, it’s no different. You could run both speed controllers off of one pwm and the programming is no different than it is for one motor.
*Originally posted by BBFIRSTCHICK *
**we have 2 on each side, and used gear ratios **
Same here.
(watch for pics to be uploaded soon)
*Originally posted by Harrison *
**Same here.(watch for pics to be uploaded soon) **
Harrison,
What do you use to switch from low to high gear…servos or pneumatics…or something else??
From the specs I saved, the Chiapua motors had just slightly less power (less than 10% differential) and a lot more torque. At stall, the Chiapua had 315 oz-in of torque. The 2002 drill motor was 650. mN-m at stall, which is about 92 oz-in. I’d expect 3 times the torque with all the copper and magnets in that big motor!
And don’t be fooled by the torque specs with the drill gearbox…I’m talking the motor only.
*Originally posted by Dick Linn *
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And don’t be fooled by the torque specs with the drill gearbox…I’m talking the motor only. **
If you gear two different motors to have the same output speed, the one with more power will also have more torque. This does not necessarily mean the drill motor is a better choice because with both motors geared to the same speed the Chalupa motor will probably have a lower effective mass and accelerate faster.
For those of you using both the drill motors and the atwoods, I am wondering how you are planning on programming the motors. I ran into a few problems, we want to beable to use drill motors on the front and atwoods on the back, and basically moniter the wheels so one doesnt spin faster than the other. Basically we made a speed-o-meter and if one is spinning faster than the other, they correct themselves. Heres the problem, we wanted to use the pulsin command to moniter our hall effect senors, but as it turns out, pulsin isnt supported. Sigh… what to do. Any one have suggestions? am i going about this the wrong way? please respond
thanks
J.D.
*Originally posted by PyroPhin *
**you would have to team them… would be a programinig nightmare to get two different motors to go the same speed on each side of the bot~Pyro **
Actually, it isnt that hard. Look at 60. Relatively simple drive, worked great with independently powered wheels.
Cory
our team is using just the two drill motors and we can get across the field in about 6 seconds but we still have a ton of power
I like this year’s drills much more than previous years, they do feel almost as smooth as the atwoods (for driving) and are very backdrivable as well. Given good traction, they can also be very very pushy/powerful, and are extremely responsive (from what i’ve seen driving our chasis around).
its all about the gearing, this year were using 2 chips(atwood) and drills. We having been using this combo from last year and they have worked extremely well if geared correctly. This year we had to redesign our gear box because they chaged the motors and our gearing is simple and comes out to be 11:1 from the chips to the drills. we havent really given it a shot on the the carpet yet. Thouhg its working well.