How many points do people think that teams will score in autonomous?
This is a somewhat broad question… In terms of teams that actually score in auto, I think the average will be around 8 pts. I think that the best teams will be consistently 18, with the definite possibility of 30 pt autons (which our team is trying). It all depends on how reliable shooters turn out to be.
Average of 4. The minimum regional winner will be will be scoring 12, best powerhouses will be scoring 24.
Realistically, the top teams at most regionals should usually score their preloads for 18. A few might pick up 2 from the ground for 30.
Week 1-3, we will see many teams try to feel out their autons and try score the 2 or 3 they are preloaded with. Come 4-6(MSC/MAR/Champs), we will see teams pick up off the floor. Kinda like the 5 ball autons of last year. Teams want to get good at scoring the first 2/3 frisbes before going after 2 more.
I object. Who says the regional winner can’t be a pyramid climbing dump bot that picks up off the ground for 10 points (5 frisbees) in autonomous in the low goal?
I can see that robot winning a regional but I don’t see 40 of them winning every regional. So I suppose I stand corrected, minimum regional winner (1st or second seed) will be 6-8 in auton.
The biggest problem is as soon as a robot comes along that can score in the third goal comes along, the climb-and-dumper is highly disadvantaged, and I do expect to see at least one robot that can both climb to level 30 and score in the third level competently at every regional.
I predict that there will be at least 1 team (being from Michigan, my bias would be one of the Michigan power houses like HOT or Thunderchickens) who scores 7 in auton. Start 3, 2 from the middle of the field, 2 from under the pyramid making a total of 42 auton points from 1 robot (hey look, only 8 points shy of the 30 point hanger with 4 disk pyramid goal dumper!).
See, our team did a simulation test of the game, and the only way the low goal became effective was because humans in autonomous could pick up frisbees that didn’t make it in our goals. But realistically, I don’t think anyone will successfully develop a system to use a camera to find frisbees on the ground during autonomous. Its just too much to do.
That being said, there is some amount of benefit scoring in there. Remember that in Rebound Rumble, if you scored in the 1-pt basket, your opponents could theoretically take that ball and score a 3-pt basket, resulting in a net 2-point loss for your team. But in Ultimate Ascent, the frisbees stay scored. So a low goal autonomous dump will stay 2-points for the whole game.
Answering the original question, We’ll no doubt see 18 point autonomous robots at places like MSC and Champs.
Considering what you guys pulled off last year, I’m surprised that you’re saying this. We know the field geometry and where frisbees are placed on the field when matches start - why is a camera necessary?
To answer the OP, I say that most regionals will top out around 30 point autons; we’ll definitely see 50s at MAR, and I would be disappointed if I didn’t see at least one 60 at MSC.
Seeing as teams start preloaded with about what they did last and the points are close to the same, I don’t see a reason that it would be very different from what we saw last year. (Median of 6, Mean was 7)