Best HP Gear Cyclers in the World?

[Andrew_Chauvin]

I am a little biased but I feel that 2930 might be a team to look for. We had a lot of radio issues at DCMP but we had a couple really good rounds, including the match I haVE LISTED BELOW
Edit: Totally didn’t see John Bottenburg there, but whats a little shameless self promotion

[IndySam]

A feeder can get in and out faster than a ground intake simply because the drivers can see every reference point on a more consistent basis.

I will totally disagree with this statement. A good ground pickup doesn’t have to wait for the gear to load, the gear should be on the floor waiting for them.

[EmileH]

5687. 6-7 gears a match under no defense during week 1 at GSD, and only been improving since then.

[anon95805413]

1710 ran 7 gears in Quals 49 at North Star:

https://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2017mnmi2_qm49

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHut0nOGSbc

330 ran a 7-8 gears here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmLteIbC9n8 but they also used their gear pickup so…

[MaskedBandit1]

Team 2383, at a select few of its matches this year, has done 6+ gears cycling from the HP exclusively.

[LazerHeadshot21]

Our bot, Dynamo, can definitely cycle 6-7 gears a match. This is largely due to an extremely fast drivetrain (6 CIM + shifters + 6 blue nitros), a funnel shaped HP intake and the Cups (the things made of white 3d printer filament and lexame in front), which we use to launch the gear onto the peg using the power of a double acting solenoid.

https://i.imgur.com/uYfrh5mh.jpg

[logank013]

In Indiana, 1018, 1024, and 71 all had fast Human Player gear cycles. And once they got it down, 1741 did pretty well day 2 at INCMP too.

Then of course, you got the goats (829) but they’re floor pick up primarily.

[Maddie_Q]

Right now at ON DCMP 4939, 5719, 5036, 610 (ofc) and even 1241(a primarily shooting bot) are pretty great. Tiny Robots like 5036 are utilizing their small size to get around defense that would bring most teams to a snails pace.

[tindleroot]

I will totally disagree with this statement. A good ground pickup doesn’t have to wait for the gear to load, the gear should be on the floor waiting for them.

I suppose a skilled and lucky human player could drop a gear so it falls into the robot right as they arrive at the loading station, which would take a comparable amount of time as a good floor pickup. However, such an occurrence would be exceptional and, when paired with effective defense avoidance, would likely result in deep Einstein performance.

[Sunnykx]

Also you need to take into account that some teams will stop scoring gears early cause they’ve reached 4 rotors or they know they are pretty much alone in gear scoring and stop after the 3rd rotor. Scouting this won’t be easy at champs, and I think qualitative information will be very important.

I agree with this. Gear deploying ability and actual gear average per match are often not the same thing. As a scouter, I look at average gears per match but I also look at how efficiently the bot spent its time. Was the strategy to get 3 rotors and then do defense or shoot? How quickly did the alliance get the 4th Rotor? Did a more nimble robot give up getting higher gear stats because it was the best defender and the gears could be made up by its partners? At PNW District Champs, I rated 2046 as the best, most versatile robot there. It could get 5 or 6 gears a match or get 30+ fuel kpa in a match or some hybrid of the two. It doesn’t show up as the highest in a lot of the gear or fuel rankings. All they did was win, darn them, over and over again: 2 District competitions and District Championship. They could adapt to whatever their alliance needed.

I think average gears or average fuel per match is a great place to start in evaluating a robot’s worth. Adding in the qualitative information (pick up and deployment speed of gears, defensive ability, the ability to evade defense, being able to go around the back side of the opponent’s airship, ground pickup, climbing speed, smart driving, etc.) can really help differentiate one robot from another with similar stats.

[JoJoKov08]

Top 25 teams by scored gear contribution:

team	Scored Gears Contribution
3238	6.52
3974	6.07
2590	5.41
6329	5.36
1937	5.35
78	5.34
5687	5.30
2168	5.20
203	5.17
230	5.16
340	5.07
1778	5.03
74	5.00
604	4.99
649	4.98
1684	4.91
3255	4.90
148	4.90
1676	4.85
2607	4.79
1720	4.78
836	4.73
384	4.67
751	4.67
68	4.64

This only looks at quals at each team’s most recent event. It probably undervalues teams that had to consistently play through defense. Also, many of these teams have ground intakes.

Also, their strategy improves over time. For example you say that 604 got an average of 4.99 but in elimination matches they were getting 7 or 8.

[JoJoKov08]

Never mind. Just looked over the scouting data, it is just over 6. Sorry for the confusion.

[dirtbikerxz]

3616

[MamaSpoldi]

Top 25 teams by scored gear contribution:

team    Scored Gears Contribution
3238    6.52
3974    6.07
2590    5.41
6329    5.36
1937    5.35
78    5.34
5687    5.30
2168    5.20
203    5.17
230    5.16
340    5.07
1778    5.03
74    5.00
604    4.99
649    4.98
1684    4.91
3255    4.90
148    4.90
1676    4.85
2607    4.79
1720    4.78
836    4.73
384    4.67
751    4.67
68    4.64

This only looks at quals at each team’s most recent event. It probably undervalues teams that had to consistently play through defense. Also, many of these teams have ground intakes.

Yes, team 230 also has a ground pickup.

[NathanStro]

Full metal jackets from the Michigan district are amazing:
https://www.thebluealliance.com/team/393

[davidhudgins9]

I am the coach of team 4941 and we have a passive gear mechanism that only intakes through the chute. We have gotten the first 3 rotors independently multiple times and can consistently get 6 gears. I wouldn’t call us best in the world, but we can definitely run gears very quickly. You’ll see us this weekend in the Hopper division in Houston, Tx.

[CloakAndDagger]

We consistently do 5-6 gears a match(when we are going for 4 rotors) with an all passive gear intake and deploy

[Evan_Schimmel]

Take a look at this match in Iowa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCA0TaIJ5v8.

If you’ll notice, both alliances are fast cyclers, and the defense doesn’t necessarily do all that much. Goes to show how once all four rotors are going, it’s gonna come down to climbing, 2 rotor auto, or fuel

[KelleyCook]

Top 25 teams by scored gear contribution:

team    Scored Gears Contribution
3238    6.52
3974    6.07
2590    5.41
6329    5.36
1937    5.35
78    5.34
5687    5.30
2168    5.20
203    5.17
230    5.16
340    5.07
1778    5.03
74    5.00
604    4.99
649    4.98
1684    4.91
3255    4.90
148    4.90
1676    4.85
2607    4.79
1720    4.78
836    4.73
384    4.67
751    4.67
68    4.64

This only looks at quals at each team’s most recent event. It probably undervalues teams that had to consistently play through defense. Also, many of these teams have ground intakes.

I’m curious how you gathered these stats.

[dirtbikerxz]

I’m curious how you gathered these stats.

Match data from TBA i’d assume.