Best of the Best

If by best you mean best looking, than I think we’re beating the heck out of everyone else :rolleyes:

I assumed since the person said “they” that they meant all three, but if they didn’t i apologize. I know nothing about team 230. Well, now I know they have standard mecanum drive =)

We aligned with 230 at the elims and won at WPI. They had an auto where they started in the defensive zone and cleared all 3 balls to the offensive zone, often times scoring 1 or 2 of them and even all 3 a couple of times. Then they would go into the mid field via the bumps and clear balls into the offensive zone from there. It worked great with a good scoring bot in the offensive zone and we put up 8 or 9 points a few times. They also hung during the quals, but we were up by enough points that they decided to avoid hanging and the risks associated in the elims. However, they did have a very durable method of hanging and I really can’t see them breaking like some of the other bots did when trying to hang. Extremely strong auto, good end game and a good teleop. And they did all of this w/o a possession method.

yes i forgot to mention the robowranglers… but you are going to need a high traction robot to be able to push you guys and 148 around… 469 can easily be pushed around because of their mecanums

You sure about that?

Did they stay in the middle zone the whole time and allow the homezone robot to score?
And was 8-9 points about the average in elims?
Can they sweep balls into the goal efficiently?
(Sorry, just trying to gather some information).
I hear they are a very good bot, but have never seen them myself. Anyone have pictures?

if you have a robot that can get under the tunnel then you can just push them out

From what I’ve heard, they’re wedged in. You’re more likely to make holes in the carpet than get them out.

They basically climbed over right away in teleop (probably will do it in auto for their next event imo) and then kicked the other 3 balls over. From there, they’d either play midfield or run a 2 on 1 offense. They weren’t the best at either of these since they lacked possession, but their whole game is played around getting early ball advantage anyway. Basically if you lock up the opponent’s zone so there are no balls there, you get 3 on 2 in the zones with balls and effectively control the game.

Part of their domination was due to the fact that no other alliance could do this at WPI. The 5th alliance (2791 195 1124) could grab 1 ball in auto and kick 2 into the midfield if everything lined up right, making the game a lot more contested, but they got knocked out by an alliance that was worse equipped to handle 230.

And was 8-9 points about the average in elims?

If you exclude Final 2, where 20 just stopped moving for some reason, yes.

Can they sweep balls into the goal efficiently?

Their kicker automatically fired which made it tricky, but they scored very effectively in every zone.

I hear they are a very good bot, but have never seen them myself. Anyone have pictures?

http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv/pictures/2010/230.jpg

When they were teamed up with us, they stayed in the middle the entire time b/c we were able to score past anyone else there and when we scored, there was a steady amount of balls in the midfield from the ball return to keep them busy. When they were with other teams who struggled to score, they would clear defensive zone, move up, clear mid field, move up, score balls on offense, then either go back to the midfield to try to score or start to get ready for the hang, whichever time and score necessitated.

To answer the question about our bot breaking down, the power cable to our camera came loose when we got bumped. We’re fixing it though, making it hard-wired since we realized it was pretty loose. Good thing we caught it before it happened in Atlanta.

Alright, thanks a lot.

how does this fit in the rules… can someone direct me in the rule book where it says that a team can latch onto a field element

There’s no rule prohibiting it.

really… i would think that with all the strict ruling this year, something like that would be prohibited

<G24> ARENA Interaction – With the exception of the BALL RETURN and RETURN BARS, ROBOTS may push or react against any elements of the ARENA, provided there is no damage or disruption of the ARENA elements. With the exception of the TOWER, ROBOTS may not grab, grasp, grapple, or attach to any ARENA structure. Violation: A warning will be issued when a ROBOT violates this rule. If the referee determines that the TEAM is disregarding the warning, their ROBOT will be disabled for the remainder of the MATCH.
(emphasis mine)

Of course this suggestion is mostly a product of an over-active sense of patriotism, but 188 didn’t look too shabby at Finger Lakes… even when stacked against 217.

yes… but that is in the finale… not regular teleoperated

thank you for pointing this out to me…

Actually, a robot can hang at any time during the match. (If it is touching its tower, it can actually expand to finale configuration any time during the match.)

yeah… ijust read that section of the rules… thanks for all the answers guys