There’s no rule prohibiting it.
really… i would think that with all the strict ruling this year, something like that would be prohibited
<G24> ARENA Interaction – With the exception of the BALL RETURN and RETURN BARS, ROBOTS may push or react against any elements of the ARENA, provided there is no damage or disruption of the ARENA elements. With the exception of the TOWER, ROBOTS may not grab, grasp, grapple, or attach to any ARENA structure. Violation: A warning will be issued when a ROBOT violates this rule. If the referee determines that the TEAM is disregarding the warning, their ROBOT will be disabled for the remainder of the MATCH.
(emphasis mine)
Of course this suggestion is mostly a product of an over-active sense of patriotism, but 188 didn’t look too shabby at Finger Lakes… even when stacked against 217.
yes… but that is in the finale… not regular teleoperated
thank you for pointing this out to me…
Actually, a robot can hang at any time during the match. (If it is touching its tower, it can actually expand to finale configuration any time during the match.)
yeah… ijust read that section of the rules… thanks for all the answers guys
I am on 230 and I have to say that this is pretty accurate. I spent a lot of time looking at results around the country (thus far) and a 4 point match will win 75% of all matchups. In fact of the 42 matches day 1 matches at WPI, only 11 had scrores of 5Pts or More. We were in 4 of those, another two teams were in 3 and the rest were spiratic. Of those 5+ point matches, 9 would have still one with only a 4 pt Game and 2 would have tied… thats if the winning alliance only scored 4 that match. So 469 has had some impressive scores in the 20’s but that is not the norm. Our High is 11. That is closer to the average regional high score.
I agree we can be pushed, but that was a sacrifice we decided on for mobility. But if we can still win 75% of the matches in the country before our partners score, than thats pretty good and our partners just add to that. Ofcourse there are those high scoring matches to look out for!
I think the only way to beat a 469 is to not let the alliance score in the first place. If the balls dont go in the goal, they cant return them. So you need to clear the zone and keep their partners from scroing.
If you are from 469… my hats off to you for thinking out of the box. Awesome job.
I think there are several good sweepers out there, most of them just plow the balls in. We just feed them and if they are tied up with a defender we score our selves on the other goal from any of the zones. 20 did a great job because that have a great ball handler.
Others have mentioned this too, I dont know why they allow teams to push more than one ball in at a time, I saw several doing it (217 , 2370, 3280 to name a few - my appologies if I remember the team numbers wrong) I thought that was a penalty! Not saying I like the rule, but I was pretty sure we werent allowed to score that way. OR was this changed in a Team Update?
Any how, good luck to you all in remaining regionals.
You cannot possess more than one ball at a time. You can herd as many as you can jam in front of your robot (or on the side or behind for that matter). It has been this way since the beginning, but this Q&A confirms it:
If the robots never posses the balls, they are allowed to manipulate more than one. Say, only one manipulated by a roller or vacuum to stay with the bot, but as many as needed can be “herded” by the bot
Just an FYI, we have a kicker that can fire Manually or Automatically. The automode is good because the timing of the sensor and when the ball need to be kicked is right on. But the Opperator and release the auto button and fire manually if we want to time the firing based on a partner or opponents position. SO… we can line up and score either way. We also use a camera and provide visual feedback to the computer as extra assurance we are in line with the target.
OK, thanks… that was one of those rules that was odd in the beginning- then they hoped the definition of “Possession” and “Carrying” would clear it up, but the initial impression was already etched in my brain!