If you activate boost when you do not have ownership of the switch or scale does the opponent get the boost
I would think you get the boost, but you don’t earn any points. Since you are theoretically doubling the rate you are getting points, but you don’t have any incoming points, nothing is doubled, so your rate stays at 0.
I disagree.
This seems to imply that alliance that has ownership of the scale gets the bonus. Remember that the opponent alliance cannot get points for owning your switch.
That is correct. Whoever has control of the scale or switch gets the boost power up, regardless of who activated it.
Thank you, I didn’t realize this while reading the manual earlier
But doesn’t the apostrophe imply that the powerup only affects the alliance that activates it?
Yeah it sounds like it just doubles the bonus regardless of who controls it.
But does anyone feel like the 1 and 2 box powerups are reversed of what they should be? I would rather double the switch on my side than the center scale, as I’m more likely to have control of that for the 10 seconds.
I think the distinction between the Blue boost and the Red boost is to show that there can be two boosts per match, each alliance triggers one. The definition is the same for both and does not depend on who has ownership of the switch.
No, it just means it only doubles your switch, not your opponents (if you have 1 or 3 boxes). Note that only the switch can be scored by both teams, i.e. your opponents can’t score from controlling your switch, and vice versa.
I agree with the interpretation right now that the boost 2 powerup would double the points for whoever owns the scale, not necessarily the initiator of the powerup. However, a few people have pointed out this is a contradiction with kickoff videos; that doesn’t make this an official rule, but makes it seem more likely that during Q&A it will get clarified and ruled the other way, in my opinion.
At the beginning of the match, yes. However, as the match progresses (and you get power cubes behind the alliance wall you can load into the vault), each team’s portal is closer to its opponent’s switch. As such, it may become easier to neutralize the switches than it is to defend them.
It seems as if the consensus is that the boost doubles scale points even if the opponent owns it. I personally think that the wording is ambiguous, and either interpretation makes sense. To me, it seems like that this will clarified to confirm the opposite of what most people in this thread think; that is that boosting has no effect if the alliance doing the boost has doesn’t control the scale/switch. What makes me think this is that the field has separate lighting effects for a blue boost and red boost, which would suggest they have different effects.
This video tells us specifically that it only boosts YOUR alliance if you have ownership. It has no effect if you don’t have ownership.
No Boost when No Own
Yes Force when No Own
That video is not an official source of rules. Also, Amanda’s question was along the line of “Does boost give an alliance ownership?”, Danny rambled a bit, but his no might have been directed at the question.
It’s not, but I doubt it would have been posted if it didn’t align with GDC intentions. Makes it seem more likely to me that a team update will change the current wording.
I hope the Q&A does clarify it.
There have been issues with the videos in the past including dimensions being wrong and a member of the FIRST staff touching the driver station hook and loop tape for the operator’s console yet still saying it was hook side when it was actually loop side. This is a situation for wait and see.
Quite often there are robots in the game video that are illegal or do illegal things. I think one year we found 6 different problems. (Hey, after you see the same video at multiple events, you gotta do something to keep your focus.)
Dave Lavery once explained that when he did the videos, he often had to create them before the rules were finalized in order to get them done in time.
They’re not referring to the game animation, but rather the field tour videos. Specifically, the vault video.
This is true, but his point regarding the questionable accuracy of the videos is well taken.